[Jack_]

RIP

[Roy Mars III]

surprising that they were bull mastiffs and bull terriers, neither breed are known for being violent

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

surprising that they were bull mastiffs and bull terriers, neither breed are known for being violent

really?

they're the stereotypical "i'm a twat and i breed hell-hounds" type of dog (other than rottweilers)

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Shaun

really?

they're the stereotypical "i'm a twat and i breed hell-hounds" type of dog (other than rottweilers)

are they?

I always thought they were considered to be non violent.

I may be wrong though

nevermind: http://www.dogtemperament.com/the-9-...ve-dog-breeds/

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

are they?

I always thought they were considered to be non violent.

I may be wrong though

nevermind: http://www.dogtemperament.com/the-9-...ve-dog-breeds/

I think it might just be a UK stereotype, the chav with a pitbull.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

surprising that they were bull mastiffs and bull terriers, neither breed are known for being violent

But if
a young person is left alone with them
and no owner there.


Then they can get the wrong feeling and kill someone, sadly
as the Leader/Owner is not stopping them.



From SkyNews Live Update
it was not her house it was a mates
she had a pie with her.

It was 4 Dogs in total
that killed her.


All 4 Dogs were put down.


This is the location

[Novo]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Novo

Yes The Owners of Many of them
Are Guilty

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Novo

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[AnnieK]

This is actually quite near to me...there has been a spate of dog and cat napping in the area where the police think they are being taken by a dog fighting ring....it's disgraceful...sad for all the animals involved..the fighting dogs are near starved and know no better...

[arista]

Originally Posted by anniek76

This is actually quite near to me...there has been a spate of dog and cat napping in the area where the police think they are being taken by a dog fighting ring....it's disgraceful...sad for all the animals involved..the fighting dogs are near starved and know no better...

Yes SkyNews Update
told us she had a Pie
which is Food they could smell.

It was not her house.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes SkyNews Update
told us she had a Pie
which is Food they could smell.

It was not her house.

Originally Posted by anniek76

This is actually quite near to me...there has been a spate of dog and cat napping in the area where the police think they are being taken by a dog fighting ring....it's disgraceful...sad for all the animals involved..the fighting dogs are near starved and know no better...

I agree with you Annie,God knows what conditions these dogs were kept in,they might have been treated cruelly as well ,and as Arista said if they were starved they would have gone for that food ,shame for all concerned ,I hope the owners if found to be negligent are banned from having animals for life ,but they won't be and I hope they get a hefty sentence,but again,they won't.

[Me. I Am Salman]

bitch it's going to be there forever, deal with it

[joeysteele]

There were 4 Dogs in the house apparantly, there is at times the danger that so many dogs together can have the pack element brought out in them.

This must have been really horrible for this girl and I am so sad to read this story being a Dog owner, well my Parents are the Dog owner but he is also my Dog too.
Being a Staffie,I am well aware were he to be with other dogs that in the wrong circumstances,something bad could,I stress only could, occur.

It is why I have trained him as well as I can without turning him into some sort of robot Dog, retaining his freedoms but I would never leave him alone with strangers.
I don't have to worry too much as to him being with other Dogs, he just looks at them and walks off,he prefers humans to Dogs.

I have to agree with the view though that overall dog attacks mainly come from Dogs with bad,irresponsible owners.
In this very sad story, where were was the owner though.

I also can understand people who have a fear of Dogs, when I am out walking mine, even though he is on a harness and lead all the time, I see people look at him and cross the road to avoid walking directly past him.

All animals can have a vicious streak to them though, I have seen cats jump onto babies in cots and pushchairs and scratch at them,even at a friends house I saw their Budgie attack the nose of of a person there and get its beak fastened in his nose, he needed hospital treatment for that.

[Nedusa]

Apparently she called Round at her friends house with a meat pie and encountered the four massive dogs all very hungry, and this they think triggered the frenzied pack attack on the young girl. She stood no chance whatsoever...

Armed police had to destroy most of these dogs on the spot as they had regressed into a bloodlust state, body parts and pieces of the girl where found all around the ground floor.

If ever there was an advert for banning these dogs or at least banning the ownership of more than one of these types of dogs..!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Apparently she called Round at her friends house with a meat pie and encountered the four massive dogs all very hungry, and this they think triggered the frenzied pack attack on the young girl. She stood no chance whatsoever...

Armed police had to destroy most of these dogs on the spot as they had regressed into a bloodlust state, body parts and pieces of the girl where found all around the ground floor.

If ever there was an advert for banning these dogs or at least banning the ownership of more than one of these types of dogs..!!!

Jesus that sounds so gruesome.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jesus that sounds so gruesome.

Horrific- this girl went to my nephews school and is in the year above him...all the kids are traumatised....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Horrific- this girl went to my nephews school and is in the year above him...all the kids are traumatised....

I can imagine, it's really awful. The owners of these dogs have alot to answer for imo, owning one and in their case 4, big and potentially dangerous dogs like that should come with a huge burden of responsibility. For example, I love bigger dogs, Doberman Pinschers and German Shepard's especially but I'd never get one, because one I have kids and two I don't have the time or energy I feel it would take to exercise and train dogs like that

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Apparently she called Round at her friends house with a meat pie and encountered the four massive dogs all very hungry, and this they think triggered the frenzied pack attack on the young girl. She stood no chance whatsoever...

Armed police had to destroy most of these dogs on the spot as they had regressed into a bloodlust state, body parts and pieces of the girl where found all around the ground floor.

If ever there was an advert for banning these dogs or at least banning the ownership of more than one of these types of dogs..!!!

jesus this is so distressing and horrible

[arista]

Yes 5 dogs in all what a Gang of Dogs
No way could she get away from them
so sad

[joeysteele]

I would agree with people not able to own more than 2 of really any dog, the only dogs I have ever been bitten by were Jack Russells, but I wouldn't call for them to be banned because of that.

This clearly has been a truly horrific tragedy, action should be takne against the owner on my view but it likely won't as Kazanne said since the dogs were in their own house and the poor girl unfortunately went in with no owner there.
The house should have been secured to stop anyone just walking in with so many dogs in the house so to me the owner is liable and should at the very least be banned from owning dogs in the future.

As for banning the breeds,I don't agree,I have heard of all breeds of dogs causing harm to others,particularly children if they are not trained and supervised correctly.
My Staffie has never even really snarled at anyone all the time I have had him let alone bite or attack anyone, that is not to say I don't believe he could which is why I take every precaution not just to protect others but him too.

Very often it is adults and dog owners who need the training,it also seesm these dogs may have been living in less that fair conditions,if it is so that they were seemingly so hungry too.
I love Dogs, I for sure would not go into a house where there were that many and the breeds they are claimed to be, it hasn't been said if they were pedigree or cross breeds,I for sure again wouldn't enter.

This tragedy, spells out the need for owners to not only ensure their pets cannot harm others but that if they are left unattended then the premises are secure enough to prevent anyone coming into contact with them and the dogs vice versa.
Clearly that wasn't so here so for me, it is the pwner who is at fault, they are responsible for the Dogs as owners of any pets are and should be.

As I said earlier, so many Dogs in one area, once one was to attack for the pie or any other reason then the others would likely follow on and join in that too.
Really tragic and horrible thing to happen but I hope it doesn't lead to more breeds of dog being banned.

All dogs can be dangerous, it is the responsibility of owners to ensure they are not and to make sure they have control at all times,more to the point never creating any situation where someone could encounter them when they,the owner/s, are not present.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would agree with people not able to own more than 2 of really any dog, the only dogs I have ever been bitten by were Jack Russells, but I wouldn't call for them to be banned because of that.

This clearly has been a truly horrific tragedy, action should be takne against the owner on my view but it likely won't as Kazanne said since the dogs were in their own house and the poor girl unfortunately went in with no owner there.
The house should have been secured to stop anyone just walking in with so many dogs in the house so to me the owner is liable and should at the very least be banned from owning dogs in the future.

As for banning the breeds,I don't agree,I have heard of all breeds of dogs causing harm to others,particularly children if they are not trained and supervised correctly.
My Staffie has never even really snarled at anyone all the time I have had him let alone bite or attack anyone, that is not to say I don't believe he could which is why I take every precaution not just to protect others but him too.

Very often it is adults and dog owners who need the training,it also seesm these dogs may have been living in less that fair conditions,if it is so that they were seemingly so hungry too.
I love Dogs, I for sure would not go into a house where there were that many and the breeds they are claimed to be, it hasn't been said if they were pedigree or cross breeds,I for sure again wouldn't enter.

This tragedy, spells out the need for owners to not only ensure their pets cannot harm others but that if they are left unattended then the premises are secure enough to prevent anyone coming into contact with them and the dogs vice versa.
Clearly that wasn't so here so for me, it is the pwner who is at fault, they are responsible for the Dogs as owners of any pets are and should be.

As I said earlier, so many Dogs in one area, once one was to attack for the pie or any other reason then the others would likely follow on and join in that too.
Really tragic and horrible thing to happen but I hope it doesn't lead to more breeds of dog being banned.

All dogs can be dangerous, it is the responsibility of owners to ensure they are not and to make sure they have control at all times,more to the point never creating any situation where someone could encounter them when they,the owner/s, are not present.

Yeah, little dogs can be just as, if not more aggressive than big dogs but the obvious difference is the amount of damage one of these "dangerous dogs" could do, it's pretty simple if a Jack Russell goes to attack you one swift kick and that problem is solved, not so much if a Pit Bull or Rottweiler sets his sites on you

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, little dogs can be just as, if not more aggressive than big dogs but the obvious difference is the amount of damage one of these "dangerous dogs" could do, it's pretty simple if a Jack Russell goes to attack you one swift kick and that problem is solved, not so much if a Pit Bull or Rottweiler sets his sites on you

Absolutely, that is as you point that the big difference,The strength of the larger dogs.
It only re-inforces my thoughts that no more than 2 should be allowed to be kept as pets, I actually doubt that even had the owner come in as this started, they would have been able to stop the horrific tragedy even then once it had begun.

That is not in any way to excuse the owner from blame as to this tragedy,for me they should have had the premises secured or at least the Dogs secured. It is that failure that led to this tragic occurence being even possible in the first place.

If my Dog had done anything like this or in fact even far less than this,I would expect to be heavily punished,he is after all my responsibility when in my charge.

[AnnieK]

The problem with the likes of Staffs and Mastiffs is they have lock jaw so once they bite you it is very difficult to get them to unlock....and that is what causes the damage as they are so strong...

[Me. I Am Salman]

people need to remember that dogs aren't people, if you are lenient with your dog because you think you know everything about it you shouldn't be allowed to keep a pet