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Old 04-04-2013, 02:56 PM #1
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I want a red eye gold would be nice again though
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The BB7-type eye I made a while back, to tie in with the new template:




And I agree with Jack, would adore a Red Eye! But I want Red for BB15, as I have an idea in my head that BB15 needs to be all evil and twisted, to mark the 10 Year Anniversary of BB5.
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The BB7-type eye I made a while back, to tie in with the new template:




And I agree with Jack, would adore a Red Eye! But I want Red for BB15, as I have an idea in my head that BB15 needs to be all evil and twisted, to mark the 10 Year Anniversary of BB5.
I love that!
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If Channel 5 have any sense they would go back to using the old Eatock eye.

It was a big mistake to get rid of it in the first place.
Everyone knows what it represents, all you have to do is show someone a picture of the old eye template and 99% of people know what it is, the new one - not so much.
Exactly. They ruined a decade's worth of branding for nothing. They could of put simple 3 second eye flashes on other channels had they of stayed with the old template, and people would of known it was coming back.
No one has a clue what the new eye really looks like, or cares for that matter.

Also - in school last year, we were shown different logos for companies and stuff, and the BB8 eye came up on screen and every single person in my year knew what it was from, and most people in my year don't even watch Big Brother. So it just shows how much that template stuck in people's minds whether they watched it or not.


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Exactly. They ruined a decade's worth of branding for nothing. They could of put simple 3 second eye flashes on other channels had they of stayed with the old template, and people would of known it was coming back.
No one has a clue what the new eye really looks like, or cares for that matter.

Also - in school last year, we were shown different logos for companies and stuff, and the BB8 eye came up on screen and every single person in my year knew what it was from, and most people in my year don't even watch Big Brother. So it just shows how much that template stuck in people's minds whether they watched it or not.




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Exactly, the branding and advertising had basically already been done. That's the point in buying a TV format instead of making your own. Most people who never watch Big Brother know the eye, the theme and Marcus Bentely. Two of those can only be used with audio.

With they eye, they lose the ability to do "eye-flashes," print advertising, etc.
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That was a great design of yours Patrick
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A green eye would be
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If they did a green eye (which is hard to get right, I dislike most fan designs in that colour, only telefan's really pulled it off) then they'd only use it to do a jealousy / envy theme which would probably mean another house divide.
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If they did a green eye (which is hard to get right, I dislike most fan designs in that colour, only telefan's really pulled it off) then they'd only use it to do a jealousy / envy theme which would probably mean another house divide.
Or they'd use green purely for the sake of using the colour green and it wouldn't have any theme/meaning beyond being decorative like 90% of the other eyes.
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Or they'd use green purely for the sake of using the colour green and it wouldn't have any theme/meaning beyond being decorative like 90% of the other eyes.
I'm not saying that the eyes inspire or suggest the theme, just that they might not be able to resist linking the green eye to a green-eyed monster theme, you know what lazy tv arty types are like with gimmicks.

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red or blue or maybe green and red eye
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Maybe they'll do something like the BB AU eye, although it's quite similar to the original eye template for bb12
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I want a brand new eye, not based on the usual channel 5 template. It's a shame, because the logo was made with the channel 5 logo in mind, the whole circle thing going on. It shouldn't be like that, it restricts their creativity so much.
 
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I want a brand new eye, not based on the usual channel 5 template. It's a shame, because the logo was made with the channel 5 logo in mind, the whole circle thing going on. It shouldn't be like that, it restricts their creativity so much.
Exactly!

It may of been 'okay' for 2011 if they wanted to go for that branding to tie in with their new logo, fair enough - but they obviously didn't think it through long term.

The old Eatock Design gave them so, so, so much room for bending the design about every year and letting the design and creativity run wild. Now they're stuck with a boring eye template for good.

Which is a shame, because Daniel Eatock [as most of us know] submitted a BB12 Eye and they declined it - all because they wanted to have an eye that would look pretty in their silly little idents and break bumpers.
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Exactly!

It may of been 'okay' for 2011 if they wanted to go for that branding to tie in with their new logo, fair enough - but they obviously didn't think it through long term.

The old Eatock Design gave them so, so, so much room for bending the design about every year and letting the design and creativity run wild. Now they're stuck with a boring eye template for good.

Which is a shame, because Daniel Eatock [as most of us know] submitted a BB12 Eye and they declined it - all because they wanted to have an eye that would look pretty in their silly little idents and break bumpers.
I know and the thing was, with a bit of work, it could have been amazing and it could have been part of a theme. With CH5's eyes for Big Brother, they don't represent what each series holds, and it will be hard for them to do so in the future.

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Exactly!

It may of been 'okay' for 2011 if they wanted to go for that branding to tie in with their new logo, fair enough - but they obviously didn't think it through long term.

The old Eatock Design gave them so, so, so much room for bending the design about every year and letting the design and creativity run wild. Now they're stuck with a boring eye template for good.

Which is a shame, because Daniel Eatock [as most of us know] submitted a BB12 Eye and they declined it - all because they wanted to have an eye that would look pretty in their silly little idents and break bumpers.
You mean this one?



Omg, there's so much they could of done with that. Ink blots going into liquid and forming the eye... and the design is actually based on this deep psychological thing (I can't remember the name of it) but it's where you look at there 'ink blots', in this case, the eye, and different people will see different things. What they see reveals their state of mind and what kind of person they are, which would be an amazing because thats what the show is about, or was about, atleast.

They could of incoroprated secret messages in the adverts, branding and everything. It could of been the best set of graphics for BB. But no, we got this...

 
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You mean this one?



Omg, there's so much they could of done with that. Ink blots going into liquid and forming the eye... and the design is actually based on this deep psychological thing (I can't remember the name of it) but it's where you look at there 'ink blots', in this case, the eye, and different people will see different things. What they see reveals their state of mind and what kind of person they are, which would be an amazing because thats what the show is about, or was about, atleast.

They could of incoroprated secret messages in the adverts, branding and everything. It could of been the best set of graphics for BB. But no, we got this...


Ugh
I never even thought of it like that, they could of gone for a whole BB7 type approach with the titles and everything.
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I never even thought of it like that, they could of gone for a whole BB7 type approach with the titles and everything.
Exactly. They need someone at the helm with a little creativity. They need Shirley Jones.

Does anyone remember how we had just had the lowest rated pile of crap, a series average of 2.5m with BB10? Then Shirley Jones produces her first series since the BB5 revamp (which viewers flooded back to aswell) and made CBB7, which had some of the highest ratings since 2007. That series launched with 6.7m.

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With the exception of maybe CBB11, but I genuinely think that's as far as they can go - unless they burnt the eye and went for an evil theme.
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They may have not gone with the eatock eye because of the 'Orbit' (Eye stage) and they couldn't be bothered making a new stage for BB13 so they used the template again. Since they are changing it, maybe they will use a new template.
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They may have not gone with the eatock eye because of the 'Orbit' (Eye stage) and they couldn't be bothered making a new stage for BB13 so they used the template again. Since they are changing it, maybe they will use a new template.
That eye was submitted for the first Channel 5 series, BB12, so the stage probably hadn't even been hired at that point.
 
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