[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Ben

Honestly, I find it one of the worst programmes to have been made. I'll hold back my judgement of those who watch it.

Which show, TOWIE or Celebrity Juice?

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Ben

Honestly, I find it one of the worst programmes to have been made. I'll hold back my judgement of those who watch it.

Good, don't want to come across as a snobby self righteous ass

[Z]

The episode was actually pretty funny even when you take out the aspect of laughing at that moron; Sarah Harding was on top form . I didn't really get the love for Celebrity Juice to begin with but I actually think it's one of the best programs on TV now.

I've never understood why The Only Way Is Essex, Made In Chelsea etc have become things. On the one hand, the concept isn't too dissimilar from Big Brother - getting to know a group of unknowns over a period of time - but the key difference is that Big Brother puts strangers together and, clever editing aside, the experience is relatively organic. These scripted reality shows don't hold the same charm. The 'stars' of these programs are being idolised for their negative qualities, whereas Big Brother 'stars' (and by that I mean those who go the distance) are revered for their good qualities. TOWIE promotes stupidity, vanity and debauchery. Made In Chelsea promotes snobbery, vanity and debauchery. Why are these people put on pedestals? I have the same gripe with the Kardashian media circus. Famous people have stopped being famous for being talented at some kind of performance art and have instead started to become famous for being good at manipulation and exploitation.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zee

The episode was actually pretty funny even when you take out the aspect of laughing at that moron; Sarah Harding was on top form . I didn't really get the love for Celebrity Juice to begin with but I actually think it's one of the best programs on TV now.

I've never understood why The Only Way Is Essex, Made In Chelsea etc have become things. On the one hand, the concept isn't too dissimilar from Big Brother - getting to know a group of unknowns over a period of time - but the key difference is that Big Brother puts strangers together and, clever editing aside, the experience is relatively organic. These scripted reality shows don't hold the same charm. The 'stars' of these programs are being idolised for their negative qualities, whereas Big Brother 'stars' (and by that I mean those who go the distance) are revered for their good qualities. TOWIE promotes stupidity, vanity and debauchery. Made In Chelsea promotes snobbery, vanity and debauchery. Why are these people put on pedestals? I have the same gripe with the Kardashian media circus. Famous people have stopped being famous for being talented at some kind of performance art and have instead started to become famous for being good at manipulation and exploitation.

Couldn't have said it better to be honest. It's time people started getting their senses back and idolising celebrities for actual good talents.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

The episode was actually pretty funny even when you take out the aspect of laughing at that moron; Sarah Harding was on top form . I didn't really get the love for Celebrity Juice to begin with but I actually think it's one of the best programs on TV now.

I've never understood why The Only Way Is Essex, Made In Chelsea etc have become things. On the one hand, the concept isn't too dissimilar from Big Brother - getting to know a group of unknowns over a period of time - but the key difference is that Big Brother puts strangers together and, clever editing aside, the experience is relatively organic. These scripted reality shows don't hold the same charm. The 'stars' of these programs are being idolised for their negative qualities, whereas Big Brother 'stars' (and by that I mean those who go the distance) are revered for their good qualities. TOWIE promotes stupidity, vanity and debauchery. Made In Chelsea promotes snobbery, vanity and debauchery. Why are these people put on pedestals? I have the same gripe with the Kardashian media circus. Famous people have stopped being famous for being talented at some kind of performance art and have instead started to become famous for being good at manipulation and exploitation.

Great post Zee.

Also I love Celebrity Juice

[Z]

It's only going to get worse over time too. Real talents go out of their way to avoid the media (Adele and Beyonce immediately spring to mind as contemporary examples) which means the void is filled by crap, unwanted crap. People are interested in celebrities, it doesn't matter who the celebrities are, people just like to know other people's business so they can mentally drag celebrities down a notch. Those who don't play the game either find themselves out of work, or are insanely talented and successful - there is no middle ground. The more the real talents hide from the media, the more opportunities there are for bottom feeders to take up column inches.

[Jordan.]

Complete moron I can't wait for the day towie is axed and all these people **** off back to nonexistence.

[Marc]

Tbh Richard and Judy hold a lot of power in this lifetime.

[Black Dagger]

The fact people find this hilarious is

****ing plank needs to evaporate.

[Roy Mars III]

I am more angry that he doesn't know who Elton John is

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

I am more angry that he doesn't know who Elton John is

He also "allegedly" thought Wales bordered Russia

[Vicky.]

Sorry but if anyone actually believes this **** they are as thick as he allegedly is.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry but if anyone actually believes this **** they are as thick as he allegedly is.

Of course he knows who Elton John is, he can't be that thick. It does bug me that he plays on it, like Brian Belo did.

[Beastie]

It was funny for what it was. He genuinely is thick but not this thick.