[Marsh.]

His apology means f all when it contains an "if".

He says he learned and needs help but then continued to blame external influences.

Good luck to him and everything but he'll only get better when he accepts responsibility.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think he said that at all tbh, he said what everyone else has been saying since it happened that it started off as play fighting and he took it too far..

he was blaming it on the drink, that means he was not in control, how far would it of went without bb.

[Jack_]

Emma hate is a bit OTT, I took the whole 50/50 thing as a reference to the flirting and relationship they had (which I agree with and she has made clear over the past few weeks), not Sunday night's incident

[Johnnyuk123]

What next? The twins spit roasting Hazel and getting off with a warning?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She's single, if she wants to flirt she can, all it would have taken was for Daley to tell her no, I have a g/f and that would have been the end of it (I'm referring to the flirting btw not what happened last night) but instead he decided to write I like you on her leg and tell her that she was giving him the horn.

Some men, when they have got a pretty face, big tits and a firm ass constantly in their face do not have the strength of character to back off. She held the power, and she should not have acted in the way that she did.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Engage your brain you silly little person. Its 'raped' by the way. Women are the stronger sex when it comes to well...sex. She used that fact to manipulate the situation.

And what exactly does Hazel's sexual ability have to do with him turning aggressive?

Engage your own brain, Daley's actions are his own fault and no one else's.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Emma hate is a bit OTT, I took the whole 50/50 thing as a reference to the flirting and relationship they had (which I agree with and she has made clear over the past few weeks), not Sunday night's incident

yeah she made it quite obvious she was completely against his behavior with Hazel before tonight, i dont think any of her "takes two to tangle" comments were to do with last night.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Some men, when they have got a pretty face, big tits and a firm ass constantly in their face do not have the strength of character to back off. She held the power, and she should not have acted in the way that she did.

Excuse me but isn't that "some mens" problem for being weak willed arseholes? And frankly I thinking it's pretty insulting to men to say they're that stupid and lack that much self control

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

And what exactly does Hazel's sexual ability have to do with him turning aggressive?

Engage your own brain, Daley's actions are his own fault and no one else's.

If you read what I wrote, you will see that I have totally seperated the two situations. His behaviour towards the end was totally inexcusable, and he acknowledged that.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That was a ****ing farce, shame on Emma for how she handled it too, ****ing disgusting, they're more or else condoning what he did and blaming Hazel as much

this a 100 per cent how any woman can come on here and blame hazel for daley squeezing her throat is disgusting.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

he was blaming it on the drink, that means he was not in control, how far would it of went without bb.

He still never mentioned anything about it all Hazels fault like the OP suggested and that's what my post was regarding..so not really sure what the point in your post is?

Originally Posted by Jack_

Emma hate is a bit OTT, I took the whole 50/50 thing as a reference to the flirting and relationship they had (which I agree with and she has made clear over the past few weeks), not Sunday night's incident

I agree the Emma hate is OTT, she conducted the interview professionally IMO.

Also agree with the rest of your post.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Some men, when they have got a pretty face, big tits and a firm ass constantly in their face do not have the strength of character to back off. She held the power, and she should not have acted in the way that she did.

This "men are weak when it comes to a beautiful woman" is bollocks, and sexist bollocks at that.

Men are capable of controlling themselves if they want to, he didn't and it is therefore his own fault. No one else can be blamed for it.

Pinning her to the bed showed who had the physical power in that time.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Excuse me but isn't that "some mens" problem for being weak willed arseholes? And frankly I thinking it's pretty insulting to men to say they're that stupid and lack that much self control

Women hold the power..if a woman says NO thats the end of it. She at no point told him to back off, she encouraged it, knowing full well she was totally ****ing his life up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

If you read what I wrote, you will see that I have totally seperated the two situations. His behaviour towards the end was totally inexcusable, and he acknowledged that.

He in no way acknowledged that he was sorry to Hazel though..........you know the actual person he pinned to the bed and threatened?

[Withano]

I thought Daley came across well. Emma can **** off though.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

What next? The twins spit roasting Hazel and getting off with a warning?

lol thats a bad image lol. some people here would say she was asking for it cause shes got big boobs a model and teasing them with hugs lol
even emma would probably say arnt those chubby boys funny takes 3 to tango lol

[CaudleHalbard]

The BOTS audience and panel - and indeed Emma - seemed to have very little sympathy for Hazel.

"It takes two" was the general sentiment.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That was a ****ing farce, shame on Emma for how she handled it too, ****ing disgusting, they're more or else condoning what he did and blaming Hazel as much

I think this was a really tricky interview for Emma, she had to walk a fine line; she had to ask about Hazel, but she also had to understand than none of us knew what was in his head at the time and needed space to explain himself, she also had to be a sensitive human being and realise that the last 24 hrs have been horrendous for him so may have took it easy on him.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He in no way acknowledged that he was sorry to Hazel though..........you know the actual person he pinned to the bed and threatened?

Yes he did, you are clearly the type of person who only reads/hears/sees what they want to.

Anyway, haven't got time for this. Got work in the morning.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Women hold the power..if a woman says NO thats the end of it. She at no point told him to back off, she encouraged it, knowing full well she was totally ****ing his life up.

Yes, of course she was.

[alex_front2]

At least Daley acknowledged that Dexter, Callum, AND Gina warned him regarding Hazel

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

He still never mentioned anything about it all Hazels fault like the OP suggested and that's what my post was regarding..so not really sure what the point in your post is?



I agree the Emma hate is OTT, she conducted the interview professionally IMO.

Also agree with the rest of your post.

all I want to know is, if daley had you round the throat how would you feel?

[reece(:]

Cannot believe that Katie is standing by him after it all

[Johnnyuk123]

Hazel only had to smile at Daley and he would get an erection ( without drink ) Thats how much he was in control of the situation. It's his own fault 100% yet tonights BBOTS show he showed what a real snake he is by not apologising directly to Hazel for pinning her down by the throat and saying he would nut her. THE VICTIM.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Yes he did, you are clearly the type of person who only reads/hears/sees what they want to.

Anyway, haven't got time for this. Got work in the morning.

He absolutely did not, he apologised to the viewers if it offended anyone and he said he didn't want to say anything about Hazel and that "he'll let people make up their own minds" which to me meant he was angry with her. He then said that he'd asked Hazel if he was crossing a line (in regards to their flirting not the incident) and he said that Hazel told him he wasn't (trying to make out it was her fault because she told him it was fine) eventhough we'd all heard him claim in there that he didn't actually have a g/f at all so why is he now saying that he wanted to know about crossing lines?....