[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm a 'red-blooded' hetero male who loves hot women and i totally think Daley was in the wrong and deserved to be ejected but i still really don't like Hazel!!!!

It's got nothing to do with her appearance or the Daley thing, it's because she's not a very nice person and doesn't come across as a very nice person. She obviously doesn't care very much about others either. She's all about what's good for her!

Thats a fair enough opinion but as has been said, when she's evicted she'll probably get 90% and the worst boo's of the series. I don't think she deserves that.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm a 'red-blooded' hetero male who loves hot women and i totally think Daley was in the wrong and deserved to be ejected but i still really don't like Hazel!!!!

It's got nothing to do with her appearance or the Daley thing, it's because she's not a very nice person and doesn't come across as a very nice person. She obviously doesn't care very much about others either. She's all about what's good for her!

I think most people who go onto BB are in it for themselves. You say Hazel isn't a very nice person,which may or may not be true,but Callum is being crucified for being too nice,because as everybody knows,anyone who is nice is only pretending to be nice,and most likely is very evil indeed?!? You are damned if you do,and you are damned if you don't???????

[jjj2]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm a 'red-blooded' hetero male who loves hot women and i totally think Daley was in the wrong and deserved to be ejected but i still really don't like Hazel!!!!

It's got nothing to do with her appearance or the Daley thing, it's because she's not a very nice person and doesn't come across as a very nice person. She obviously doesn't care very much about others either. She's all about what's good for her!

Total rubbish . Xenophobic hate pure and simple

[CaudleHalbard]

Hazel herself said she has "evil inside" - and seemed to relish it.

An odd thing to say of oneself, even in a VT which as we know can be full of secrets and lies!

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Hazel herself said she has "evil inside" - and seemed to relish it.

An odd thing to say of oneself, even in a VT which as we know can be full of secrets and lies!

I think what she actually said was that we all have a little evil inside,and when pressed did she have a little evil inside,she confirmed she did! When people are trying to get on BB they have to sell themselves by making out they will be the life and soul of the party,and the greatest housemate ever. I presume by "evil" she meant mischievous?!? If she said she would have done a "Sophie",I doubt she would have got beyond her first audition! And neither would Sophie?!?

[Vicky.]

Hazel is getting the Aaron treatment it seems

Its not quite Aaron levels of beatings yet though.

[smeagol]

maybe hazel is a actor - according to dan yesterday she is lol

bbots rarely get it right but they did get one thing right that she is holding back . thats the prob with hazel she isn't quite being her self,

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smeagol

maybe hazel is a actor - according to dan yesterday she is lol

bbots rarely get it right but they did get one thing right that she is holding back . thats the prob with hazel she isn't quite being her self,

I think the problem is she is easily bored, and is a bit mischievous / likes to stir up entertainment, actually just like Gina and Dexter, but holds back on it because she doesnt want to be branded a bitch. But it slips out occasionally and - because she hasn't been upfront about it with the AUDIENCE from the start, that's exactly what's happened and she's been branded the bitch.

I said weeks ago that if from the very start she had been more open about liking winding people up for a laugh, and "brought the viewers in on it", she wouldnt be so unpopular.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think the problem is she is easily bored, and is a bit mischievous / likes to stir up entertainment, actually just like Gina and Dexter, but holds back on it because she doesnt want to be branded a bitch. But it slips out occasionally and - because she hasn't been upfront about it with the AUDIENCE from the start, that's exactly what's happened and she's been branded the bitch.

I said weeks ago that if from the very start she had been more open about liking winding people up for a laugh, and "brought the viewers in on it", she wouldnt be so unpopular.

This is possibly true. She does have a mischievous side - that some simply see a evil - and maybe she should have been bit more upfront. Interesting that you mention Gina, she has made infinitely more bitchy comments than Hazel but Hazel is the one branded a bitch and Gina is a fave to win. Gina bitched for 4 days straight in the safe house but somehow the public have forgiven her for it. Where Hazels forgiveness?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This is possibly true. She does have a mischievous side - that some simply see a evil - and maybe she should have been bit more upfront. Interesting that you mention Gina, she has made infinitely more bitchy comments than Hazel but Hazel is the one branded a bitch and Gina is a fave to win. Gina bitched for 4 days straight in the safe house but somehow the public have forgiven her for it. Where Hazels forgiveness?

Gina is very upfront about it - sometimes not with the HMs themselves but with the public... Talking in the Dairy Room etc, not being afraid to say "i don't care if none of you like me". Doesn't hurt that she's made herself into this unrealistic posh "character", too. Makes it more pantomime, which people can get on board with.

Hazel is actually quite self-conscious and insecure in many ways. She's not sure of herself like Gina is and she's not just letting her personality out, just little pent up bits of it so very few people "get" her. People also find this insecurity hard to believe as she clearly knows she can "use" her looks and only fat, spotty people can be insecure obviously...

The truth is people who are this image conscious are almost always quite unsure of themselves as personalities. It's a shame because she's actually quite clever and funny when she's not holding back (when she's had a drink, basically).

And what do we do with insecure people? ... Kick them out ASAP and boo them until they curl up in the fetal position, of course!

She will get boo'd and I think it will visibly affect her more than anyone else this season. She'll look scared and upset and try her best to pretend she doesn't care... And the public will lap it up, say shes only scared that she won't get work, and focus on her pretending not to care.

Its horrible, really. Not the first time its happened, though.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Gina is very upfront about it - sometimes not with the HMs themselves but with the public... Talking in the Dairy Room etc, not being afraid to say "i don't care if none of you like me". Doesn't hurt that she's made herself into this unrealistic posh "character", too. Makes it more pantomime, which people can get on board with.

Hazel is actually quite self-conscious and insecure in many ways. She's not sure of herself like Gina is and she's not just letting her personality out, just little pent up bits of it so very few people "get" her. People also find this insecurity hard to believe as she clearly knows she can "use" her looks and only fat, spotty people can be insecure obviously...

The truth is people who are this image conscious are almost always quite unsure of themselves as personalities. It's a shame because she's actually quite clever and funny when she's not holding back (when she's had a drink, basically).

And what do we do with insecure people? ... Kick them out ASAP and boo them until they curl up in the fetal position, of course!

She will get boo'd and I think it will visibly affect her more than anyone else this season. She'll look scared and upset and try her best to pretend she doesn't care... And the public will lap it up, say shes only scared that she won't get work, and focus on her pretending not to care.

Its horrible, really. Not the first time its happened, though.

Agree. I wasn't disagree in in my other post btw.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Gina is very upfront about it - sometimes not with the HMs themselves but with the public... Talking in the Dairy Room etc, not being afraid to say "i don't care if none of you like me". Doesn't hurt that she's made herself into this unrealistic posh "character", too. Makes it more pantomime, which people can get on board with.

Hazel is actually quite self-conscious and insecure in many ways. She's not sure of herself like Gina is and she's not just letting her personality out, just little pent up bits of it so very few people "get" her. People also find this insecurity hard to believe as she clearly knows she can "use" her looks and only fat, spotty people can be insecure obviously...

The truth is people who are this image conscious are almost always quite unsure of themselves as personalities. It's a shame because she's actually quite clever and funny when she's not holding back (when she's had a drink, basically).

And what do we do with insecure people? ... Kick them out ASAP and boo them until they curl up in the fetal position, of course!

She will get boo'd and I think it will visibly affect her more than anyone else this season. She'll look scared and upset and try her best to pretend she doesn't care... And the public will lap it up, say shes only scared that she won't get work, and focus on her pretending not to care.

Its horrible, really. Not the first time its happened, though.

Fully agree,you're on the ball today!!

[blue]

hazel is a bitch deal with it, stop trying to find reasons for her actions.





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[Livia]

Originally Posted by blue

hazel is a bitch deal with it, stop trying to find reasons for her actions.

Being beautiful doesn't make you a bitch. You deal with that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by blue

whats beauty got to do with it? are you dumb? you can be ugly as **** and still be a bitch, seriously some people.

You can but are less likely to feel the heat for it.

The problem with Hazel is the Daley thing. Lots of girls feel like, at some point in their life, a flirty "man eater" has gotten between them and a man or ruined their chances with one, or "stolen" one from them.

These girls feel the need to take that repressed anger and frustration out on Hazel, because she's there, and it's easy. A woman scorned, and all that.

[blue]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You can but are less likely to feel the heat for it.

The problem with Hazel is the Daley thing. Lots of girls feel like, at some point in their life, a flirty "man eater" has gotten between them and a man or ruined their chances with one, or "stolen" one from them.

These girls feel the need to take that repressed anger and frustration out on Hazel, because she's there, and it's easy. A woman scorned, and all that.

a woman scorned or not hazel is a bitch fact

[user104658]

Originally Posted by blue

a woman scorned or not hazel is a bitch fact

Well, who can argue with logic like that? I suppose you're right. If all hazels are bitches and some bitches are hazels, then indeed, it must be true that hazel is a bitch! I'll have to draw up a syllogism to be sure, but it definitely seems correct.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by blue

hazel is a bitch deal with it, stop trying to find reasons for her actions.





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She was flirting with a guy who said he was single,she got involved in a play-fight that got out of hand when a pro-boxer lost the plot,and she's concerned about her public image,like everybody else in the house!! What a bitch?!?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

She was flirting with a guy who said he was single,she got involved in a play-fight that got out of hand when a pro-boxer lost the plot,and she's concerned about her public image,like everybody else in the house!! What a bitch?!?

He never claimed to be single? why do people stretch the truth so much to fit in with their opinions??

He said in the beginning he was in a relationship, then he started saying things were complicated, he never said he was single..

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

He never claimed to be single? why do people stretch the truth so much to fit in with their opinions??

He said in the beginning he was in a relationship, then he started saying things were complicated, he never said he was single..

He specifically, in these exact words, said:

"She [Katie, his girlfriend] said before I came in that we're not together, that I should do my fing in 'ere and when I get out, you know, we'll see."

He said this to both Hazel, and later Dexter after dex came out of the safehouse. Specifically during the conversation about "having your cake in the house, then going home and expecting the other cake to still be there" (oh Dexter, you wordsmith...)

So... err... yeah. He said they had at least temporarily broken up. Anti-Hazel bias apparently comes along with selective hearing, it seems.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He specifically, in these exact words, said:

"She [Katie, his girlfriend] said before I came in that we're not together, that I should do my fing in 'ere and when I get out, you know, we'll see."

He said this to both Hazel, and later Dexter after dex came out of the safehouse. Specifically during the conversation about "having your cake in the house, then going home and expecting the other cake to still be there" (oh Dexter, you wordsmith...)

So... err... yeah. He said they had at least temporarily broken up. Anti-Hazel bias apparently comes along with selective hearing, it seems.

Thanks Toy Soldier for the confirmation.I try to watch and listen from a neutral point of view,and tend not to twist facts to suit my opinions.I don't love or hate anyone in the house,but I can't stand the bias shown by BBBOTS and the editing of BB in general!
And Josy what's your opinion on the other two points I made?

[rusticgal]

Hazel is using Charlie.... she is a user. Look how she used Dan up until he was nominated...then on to Daley....then back to Dan. She seems like Charlies best mate but she was bitching about her last night...not the first time either.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hazel is using Charlie.... she is a user. Look how she used Dan up until he was nominated...then on to Daley....then back to Dan. She seems like Charlies best mate but she was bitching about her last night...not the first time either.

Hazel has been friends with both Charlie and Dan from the beginning. Well in Charlies case it was probably week 2 as she found it hard to connect with ehr. She was saying last night that Charlie should think before she speaks as sometimes her comments can be misconstued. And she has also said that to Charlie to her face. Charlie at some stage said something about Hazel also behind her back but none of them ever bitched about each other. She took a bit of time out from Dan but they never fell out and are still very close. She will be gutted if he leaves Friday which I hope he doesnt as he is my favourite housemate and Hazel is my second favourite

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hazel is using Charlie.... she is a user. Look how she used Dan up until he was nominated...then on to Daley....then back to Dan. She seems like Charlies best mate but she was bitching about her last night...not the first time either.

This is the type of comment I'm referring to and why I started the who is more evil thread.

I'm stunned that you know her so well that you can tell she's a user. Hang on, cant we say that of all the HMs'? They're all best mates with Gina now they know she's popular.

[the truth]

shes a lowlife deserves all she gets