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Old 24-07-2013, 09:05 AM #1
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I was talking more about Sam,Callum is a tad ott sometimes and awkward in his mannerisms but I don't think that makes him the demon he's made out to be on here.
Oh right Sam, yes nice guy, but we shouldn't patronise him, he went in there knowing exactly what it would be like or at least he should have done, he is 24 not 17.

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Sometimes you just have to shake your head in disbelief at the heartlessness. I'm lost for words.
I don't see any heartlessness on this thread,you want to hand 100,000 to some young lad who is is full health, good looking, and got a lot going for him because he happens to be partially deaf? I don't think people are because we are not defining him by his deafness.
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Oh right Sam, yes nice guy, but we shouldn't patronise him, he went in there knowing exactly what it would be like or at least he should have done, he is 24 not 17.



I don't see any heartlessness on this thread,you want to hand 100,000 to some young lad who is is full health, good looking, and got a lot going for him because he happens to be partially deaf? I don't think people are because we are not defining him by his deafness.
Yes and like he said he's strong and is his own person. He doesn't want to be patronised.
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I was talking more about Sam,Callum is a tad ott sometimes and awkward in his mannerisms but I don't think that makes him the demon he's made out to be on here.
Oh right Sam, yes nice guy, but we shouldn't patronise him, he went in there knowing exactly what it would be like or at least he should have done, he is 24 not 17.

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Sometimes you just have to shake your head in disbelief at the heartlessness. I'm lost for words.
I don't see any heartlessness on this thread,you want to hand 100,000 to some young lad who is is full health, good looking, and got a lot going for him because he happens to be partially deaf? I don't think people are being heartless I think we are just not defining him by his deafness.
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Oh right Sam, yes nice guy, but we shouldn't patronise him, he went in there knowing exactly what it would be like or at least he should have done, he is 24 not 17.



I don't see any heartlessness on this thread,you want to hand 100,000 to some young lad who is is full health, good looking, and got a lot going for him because he happens to be partially deaf? I don't think people are being heartless I think we are just not defining him by his deafness.
Did I say I that? Please stop putting words into my mouth.
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Did I say I that? Please stop putting words into my mouth.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your post but it annoys me that people are looking at his disability rather than his ability.
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Sorry if I misinterpreted your post but it annoys me that people are looking at his disability rather than his ability.
What annoys me is that Sam opened up to his friend and he is being accused of going for the sympathy vote and milking it. Sam has never moaned or even mentioned his difficulties before and look what happens when he does!

He HAS a disability and he or anyone else shouldn't be afraid to mention that fact as if it is something to be ashamed of. That is a separate issue from his ability. Sam is a smart, highly independent, down to earth young man with a good heart and a good sense of humour. But this thread isn't about his merits, it is about him talking about his disability.

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Oh right Sam, yes nice guy, but we shouldn't patronise him, he went in there knowing exactly what it would be like or at least he should have done, he is 24 not 17.



I don't see any heartlessness on this thread,you want to hand 100,000 to some young lad who is is full health, good looking, and got a lot going for him because he happens to be partially deaf? I don't think people are being heartless I think we are just not defining him by his deafness.
Cherie I'de rather hand it to him than someone who uses women or situations for their own benefit.
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Neither really. He's doing incredibly well reading lips and the housemates don't even realize it because he is so good. But of course he'll suffer in group settings. However, it was not heart breaking nor begging for the sympathy vote either. I liked his honesty on the situation and I don't think he's the kind to go for the sympathy vote.
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Was I imagining it, or at the end of Callum's interview with Sam, did he shake his head, say 'so sad' to himself (to the cameras) and then start wiping non-existant tears from his eyes? When Sam gets to watch this back, how is he going to feel seeing Callum being so theatrically patronising. It turned my stomach. No-one wants to be pitied!!!!!
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I don't think Sam will look it as being pitied more likely to realise Callum was moved by Sam opening up like that.
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I don't think Sam will look it as being pitied more likely to realise Callum was moved by Sam opening up like that.
Actually, yes, Sam is likely to only see it as a positive reaction. It is mainly the fact that Callum said 'So sad' out loud unnecessarily, that made my stomach churn.
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That therapy conversation has made Sam even more popular on Twitter

Mandy Coates ‏@MandyCoates1987 14m
Aww Sam is cute as he better not go this week, wish he could join in more #bbuk

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That was pretty touching stuff. Thanks for the honesty, Sam. #BBUK #DrCallum #IllTakeaFewBiscuits
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Callum is the only one who actually takes time to talk to Sam so he can understand properly #bbuk

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Aw Sam is so lovely in big brother #bbuk

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For a young man to have such a severe hearing problem must be SO tough. Total respect for Sam!!!

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That therapy conversation has made Sam even more popular on Twitter

Mandy Coates ‏@MandyCoates1987 14m
Aww Sam is cute as he better not go this week, wish he could join in more #bbuk

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That was pretty touching stuff. Thanks for the honesty, Sam. #BBUK #DrCallum #IllTakeaFewBiscuits
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Callum is the only one who actually takes time to talk to Sam so he can understand properly #bbuk


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Aw Sam is so lovely in big brother #bbuk

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For a young man to have such a severe hearing problem must be SO tough. Total respect for Sam!!!

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Untrue in the unedited version of the clip Sam said Gina was the only one who listened to him properly.
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Untrue in the unedited version of the clip Sam said Gina was the only one who listened to him properly.
Yep, well spotted but Gina being too nice doesn't fit the SL.
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It must be awfully hard being deaf. There's nothing about your appearance to say that you have any kind of disability, and it makes your speech sound slow... and if you miss chunks of the conversation, people assume it's because you're a bit stupid.

And of course... the are the opinions of the hard-hearted, as we can see on here; who've probably never felt empathy in their life.
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totally 100% genuine conversation between the 2 most genuine housemates....massive respect to sam for answering a geniuine question genuinely.....
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I do think their friendship is genuine. It's Callum relationship to Charlie I'd worry about!
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I don't see why he would be looking for a sympathy vote at this time, he doesn't even know he's up?

Anyway I think the conversation was 100% genuine and he wouldn't have told any other housemate that apart from Callum, he's actually doing brilliantly in there, think how difficult it must be trying to keep up with conversations and stuff going on when they are all speaking over each other and stuff, Callum is the only one in there that actually takes time to explain conversations and situations to Sam too, it's a very nice genuine friendship they have going on.
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when the word sympathy is used people mean from the public. not sam asking for it.
at least thats what i meant
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yeah he may get some sympathy but hes not looking for it....I think going in there with 85% deafness is just extraordinary braveness. and if people want to vote him to win for that braveness fair enough I say
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I find it insuiting to even think the public would give him a sympathy vote.
Sam has gone in there to gain understanding of his disability not sympathy.

If he wins then he will win because of his character and not his deafness.
He is a lovely lad, not perfect but one of the best of the bunch this year.
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There's a massive difference between sympathy and empathy.

Sadly some people seem tot hink they're the same.
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