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Old 27-07-2013, 12:58 PM #1
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The only thing Dan will learn, over and above what Hazel has told him, is all her c**k-teasing that preceded the incident. I doubt it will raise his opinion of her.
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The only thing Dan will learn, over and above what Hazel has told him, is all her c**k-teasing that preceded the incident. I doubt it will raise his opinion of her.
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The only thing Dan will learn, over and above what Hazel has told him, is all her c**k-teasing that preceded the incident. I doubt it will raise his opinion of her.
He was already aware of her flirting getting out of hand and warned her about it.

Has no bearing on the incident in the safe house though.

Like someone else said, he knows her a hell of a lot better than we do. No edited 5 minute clip is going to dramatically change his opinions.

If he's going to watch any of it back, I'd hope it would be the unedited live feed segments, which show the full nature of both Hazel and Daley's frame of minds.
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He was already aware of her flirting getting out of hand and warned her about it.

Has no bearing on the incident in the safe house though.

Like someone else said, he knows her a hell of a lot better than we do. No edited 5 minute clip is going to dramatically change his opinions.

If he's going to watch any of it back, I'd hope it would be the unedited live feed segments, which show the full nature of both Hazel and Daley's frame of minds.
None of the Haters on here are interested in the whole story! Everyone knows she was over the top with the flirting,but so many people seem to feel that that justifies Daley's actions,which most people with more than one braincell knows it doesn't. None of the Haters seem to have seen the unedited version,and have no interest in checking it out,in case it might interfere with their continued hating!?!
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The only thing Dan will learn, over and above what Hazel has told him, is all her c**k-teasing that preceded the incident. I doubt it will raise his opinion of her.
Can you explain what this means please?
Sounds like you're saying she in some way controlled him in his actions that evening. He is a man not a puppet, his actions were 100% his own doing.
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Can you explain what this means please?
Sounds like you're saying she in some way controlled him in his actions that evening. He is a man not a puppet, his actions were 100% his own doing.
and so were hers
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and so were hers
No one's disputing that. But a lot of the hatred for Hazel insinuates she cast a spell on him and he had no control over his urges. Which is crap.
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No one's disputing that. But a lot of the hatred for Hazel insinuates she cast a spell on him and he had no control over his urges. Which is crap.
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Dan can watch it himself and see Hazels a slag
As a gay man i'm sure he will find it hilarious how a pretty girl can manipulate straight men pretty much anyway they want.
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Why would she mention it. Dan has one interview on a live show, why bring up something irrelevant to him?
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Why would she mention it. Dan has one interview on a live show, why bring up something irrelevant to him?
irrelevant? they were 2 of his best mates....bizarre question?
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irrelevant? they were 2 of his best mates....bizarre question?
It is irrelevant to him, it would be like Emma spending 5 minutes telling Sallie about a conversation Wolfy had with the twins whilst she was in the toilet.
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It is irrelevant to him, it would be like Emma spending 5 minutes telling Sallie about a conversation Wolfy had with the twins whilst she was in the toilet.
no its not youre 100% wrong
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no its not youre 100% wrong
Emma has ten minutes to interview people about their time in the house. Not talk about other peoples time in the house about topics that never included them.

Its weird that you think you're right.
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
Exactly!

Brilliant post but im afraid the op wont read this or will choose to ignore it.
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
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Once dan gets a look at the footage, he will go crazy.

The ex police detective will have strong opinions about what should be done to a man that threatens women in that way. But he wont be given the opportunity to voice his displeasure. That might dampen the hazel hate narrative on BOTS.
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
Well said,but the Haters won't listen!!
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I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S
A BRILLIANT POST BEZ. I couldnt agree with you more.
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Daley was a prize dickhead,He f'ked it up for himself cos he could'nt handle his drink.That was'nt Hazels fault.How did she know he was gonna turn into a woman beating nobhead.They were just flirting as usual as far as she was concerned.
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