[Lex]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Yet another Sam Bashing thread. There are loads now but they do say......A measure of your popularity can be judge by how many haters you have. Loads of worried Dexter and Gina fans out there now.

By that logic...Dexter must be have enough "popularity" to win the next 12 big brothers or so then!!
Your contradictory ethics are beginning to grind on me now sampvt! ...everybody knows that if it were to have been Dexter that made that sleazy-remark [and many of Sam's others]...that you would be crucifying him for it!! ....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lex

By that logic...Dexter must be have enough "popularity" to win the next 12 big brothers or so then!!
Your contradictory ethics are beginning to grind on me now sampvt! ...everybody knows that if it were to have been Dexter that made that sleazy-remark [and many of Sam's others]...that you would be crucifying him for it!! ....

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Three massive cheers for you Livia and really well said too. Great post,(as always).

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

I think we can take a lot of Dexter's stories about what he has done in his life with a pinch of salt....and even if true that happened outside the house, we shouldn't judge anyone for what they did before entering the house, we can only judge what we see them say or do inside the house.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I think we can take a lot of Dexter's stories about what he has done in his life with a pinch of salt....and even if true that happened outside the house, we shouldn't judge anyone for what they did before entering the house, we can only judge what we see them say or do inside the house.

Like the rodeo comments that he was warned for..... for offensive sexual language?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Good post Livia,all true

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Ok forget the Dexter rant...substitute his name for anyone else's that hasn't chosen the "edgy-persona gameplan"...let's say someone around Sam's age [24 ish] ...someone without the disability,...someone that, like Sam has been brought up in a normal family environment, and has travelled the world [he spent part of his life in America without his family don;t forget] a lad that claims to have had [apart from his hearing problem] a pretty normal life, with ...and yet you claim naivety for his comments? mmmmh...me smells double standards Livia!

[Daffodil]

I have disliked Sam from the beginning.

[lime]

If dexter or Callum had said it there would be outrage ..but it is perfectably acceceptable for Sam to say it

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

If dexter or Callum had said it there would be outrage ..but it is perfectably acceceptable for Sam to say it

Not only that, the suggestion is that forum members aren't allowed to make threads about it without being accused of smear campaigning and desperation.

Every hm has had 'desperate' threads made about them. Why is Sam such a special case where it's not allowed?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not only that, the suggestion is that forum members aren't allowed to make threads about it without being accused of smear campaigning and desperation.

Clearly they are allowed to make threads about it. You are on one right now.

However, as this is a forum, your ideas will be challenged. But you already know that... right?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

Clearly they are allowed to make threads about it. You are on one right now.

However, as this is a forum, your ideas will be challenged. But you already know that... right?

You missed the 'without being accused of smear campaigning and getting desperate' Of course threads can made.

I don't believe this thread is desperate, by and large it's pointing out the double standards. Sam gets an easier ride for some reason.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

You missed the 'without being accused of smear campaigning and getting desperate' Of course threads can made.

I don't believe this thread is desperate, by and large it's pointing out the double standards. Sam gets an easier ride for some reason.

No I didn't miss it.

Sam gets an easier ride because he's younger, more immature, less worldly and a lot more naive than Dexter. I'm sure you can see that's true.

[Kizzy]

Seeing as it's relevant I'll put this here too....

Didn't wolfy go to Cornwall for 'the beach the babes and the fish'?
Does that sound like a term used by someone hung op on feminism?...

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Double standards much?....

[chuff me dizzy]

And Wolfy is to be believed ? naaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

[karezza]

Why are Big Brother protecting sleazy Sam? I want to see the housemates as they really are.

[KingOfTheMods]

Harmless really. He's still a cock though.

[Jemal]

If callum had said that people on here would of been like "told you hes creepy" "so weird" "GET CALLUM OUT" "CREEPSTER CALLUM OUT"....

[MTVN]

He has made a habit of making some quite explicit comments to people he's literally just met, I don't think he has any real awareness of what's appropriate and what isn't

[Black Dagger]

If Dexter said this he'd be described as a dirty rat and sleazy and disgusting... but because 'harmless, deaf, genuine' Sam said it, it's quite alright and just harmless banter.

k

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

If Dexter said this he'd be described as a dirty rat and sleazy and disgusting... but because 'harmless, deaf, genuine' Sam said it, it's quite alright and just harmless banter.

k

I know, the double standards really piss me off.

[Issac]

If this idiot wasn't deaf he would of got a warning!

[billy123]

Well this backfired didnt it smeagol i think you just turned a few people into sam fans.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Well this backfired didnt it smeagol i think you just turned a few people into sam fans.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

AWWWWWWWWWW bless you are helping too well done