[user104658]

Originally Posted by Speedster

No-one was intimidated by her; she's allowed to have opinions different to other people, and you're saying she was horrible to Gina?? wtf!.

Anyway, she's gone now so you've got Sam "The Letch", Sophie "Gray", Jack and Joe "The snores", Dexter "The peacock", Charlie "The glass maiden" and M personal favourite (Not) Gina "The poison stuffed dummy" to keep you entertained.

Enjoy.

Unless Dexter miraculously grows a spine and turns on Gina it's going to be dire, no matter which of them you're a fan of. It's basically Gina, Dexter and 5 overgrown children at this point ... and Dexter has become a people-pleaser.

[joeysteele]

Sorry, well I am not really, I don't agree with a single word of the opening post at all.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

I wanted to post this as an antidote to the rewriting of history of Hazel that we are seeing on the Forum tonight.

She will never accept responsibility for anything she does. With every situation (Daley, Gina, Charlie, Dexter) it is always someone else that's wrong. Her behaviour is never wrong in her eyes. Even when confronted directly by others (Callum, Dexter), her reaction is to shoot the messenger.

And she on several occasions turned the whole house against HMs she doesn't like (Dexter, Charlie, Callum, Gina) - she is nasty.

And most vicious of all is her reaction to direct criticism which she knows is correct. She simply talks over it and ignores it - evidence Friends and Family during several of their noms of her. Like all manipulative liars, they use bullying and intimidation to get what they want.

A nasty nasty piece of work who quite rightly got their just desserts tonight when she left the house to massive boos and to chants to get her out.

Or maybe she just doesent care about people that slag her off for no reason. She was true to her word and still says Daley told her he was green light so whats your problem. These threads seem pointless as they have been all over the forums loads of times....newsflash....we get it, ok.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The pics of her rubbing herself all over Coolio, the relationship with Callum Best (and he was only the son of a footballer!). She's a fame/money hungry skank to the core!

So, everything outside of the house from several years ago that you would have no way of actually knowing the details of considering you don't know them and weren't there?

Yet offer nothing of her past 8 weeks in the Big Brother house?

Speaks volumes.

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by Speedster

No-one was intimidated by her; she's allowed to have opinions different to other people, and you're saying she was horrible to Gina?? wtf!.

Anyway, she's gone now so you've got Sam "The Letch", Sophie "Gray", Jack and Joe "The snores", Dexter "The peacock", Charlie "The glass maiden" and M personal favourite (Not) Gina "The poison stuffed dummy" to keep you entertained.

Enjoy.

There are plenty of good HMs left in - Gina, Dexter, Charlie. The fact you may not like them is up to you. But if would look at what they've given to the show with an open mind, you'd see that.

Incidentally, I thought Hazel was a great HM too. I detested her but I can admit she was good on the show.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The pics of her rubbing herself all over Coolio, the relationship with Callum Best (and he was only the son of a footballer!). She's a fame/money hungry skank to the core!

Don't tell me - you are so innocent. Or is it different for blokes?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The pics of her rubbing herself all over Coolio, the relationship with Callum Best (and he was only the son of a footballer!). She's a fame/money hungry skank to the core!

Fame / money hungry describes: Hazel, Dexter, Gina, Dan, Jack & Joe, Sallie, Jemima, Daley and almost certainly Charlie. And possibly Sam in a slightly different way, I doubt he gave it as much thought as the others. In fact, probably Sophie too.

So I don't really get your point.

[megamaja40]

She's a strong intelligent woman... Most people don't like that..
Way to go hazel!

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Unless Dexter miraculously grows a spine and turns on Gina it's going to be dire, no matter which of them you're a fan of. It's basically Gina, Dexter and 5 overgrown children at this point ... and Dexter has become a people-pleaser.

Very good point. I think it'll be a snore-fest in there now with not much to keep people interested other than silly tasks and the odd argument (maybe).

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

There are plenty of good HMs left in - Gina, Dexter, Charlie.

I don't disagree that they've been good housemates (I don't like Gina, I think Dex was great but has lost his mojo, and I'm pretty indifferent to Charlie) BUT...

...they won't clash, in any way, at all. I can't see where there will be any source of conflict. The only "feisty" one left is Gina... all of the others who filled that role (Hazel, Callum, Dan, Mumma Travers, Wolfie, Sallie) are now gone so I really don't see what's left to see... the series is over... it's going to limp along for a couple of weeks and then Sam will win.

What on earth is face to face nominations going to be like?

"Well I really like you but I get on with others better..."

"I think you're great but yesterday you burned the last tin of beans..."

[kate2013]

They will seek another scapegoat, maybe not before noms. Maybe Gina up against Charlie since she swapped sides back to Hazel, with Sophie as her pet. Or Dexter may get targeted again. Sophie could kick a stink up against Sam or might be the twins pipe up, but it will happen tasks are formed to set off underlying resentment.

[Niamh.]

She really isn't. The only time Hazel has become "nasty" is when she's been backed into a corner and felt like she had to defend herself, if you take a proper look through Big Brother history, you'll find a whole lot more genuine arseholes than Hazel

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

I wanted to post this as an antidote to the rewriting of history of Hazel that we are seeing on the Forum tonight.

She will never accept responsibility for anything she does. With every situation (Daley, Gina, Charlie, Dexter) it is always someone else that's wrong. Her behaviour is never wrong in her eyes. Even when confronted directly by others (Callum, Dexter), her reaction is to shoot the messenger.

And she on several occasions turned the whole house against HMs she doesn't like (Dexter, Charlie, Callum, Gina) - she is nasty.

And most vicious of all is her reaction to direct criticism which she knows is correct. She simply talks over it and ignores it - evidence Friends and Family during several of their noms of her. Like all manipulative liars, they use bullying and intimidation to get what they want.

A nasty nasty piece of work who quite rightly got their just desserts tonight when she left the house to massive boos and to chants to get her out.

Spot on

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She really isn't. The only time Hazel has become "nasty" is when she's been backed into a corner and felt like she had to defend herself, if you take a proper look through Big Brother history, you'll find a whole lot more genuine arseholes than Hazel

Absolutely and again I agree with you Niamh.
Very valid point as to Hazel just defending herself and she did it all brilliantly in my view too.

[Yayita]

Jealous haters, admit she did well for all that happened and all they blaned on her.
Its so easy to point fingers and jump on the band wagon, always blaming the woman.
While Daily gets away unscathed. PULEEZE! Most would have crumbled but I admire her strength and conviction.

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

There are plenty of good HMs left in - Gina, Dexter...

LOL

You call Hazel out for being narcissistic and manipulative yet you like Dexter & Gina?

Pot, meet kettle....



Anyways. She's no better or worse then anyone else in there. She was a strong woman who didn't get along with Gina. She didn't fold and to pretend to either. She accepted her fair share of the blame and provided explanations, like 'it takes two to tango' and that the worst thing her and Daley did was flirt, they never even kissed or hooked up in the house. This is all fact. I'm not sure what she's done to you personally to make you so worked up, but she certainly isn't the evil narcissistic, manipulative liar that you're trying ever so hard to her into.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Rubbish - you just don't like strong women. She is strong, clever and beautiful - a powerful combination which threatens many.

Women can be strong and powerful without being manipulative bitches who use their looks to get what they want. Sad you dont know that.

She openly admitted she was a sh** stirrer ffs, and revels in it. When she explained to Charlie why she turned on her she nicely omitted the part where she made up blatant lies about stuff Charlie said and massively over embellished what Gina said.

OP was right, Daley situation was ALL his fault. Gina feud was ALL ginas fault. Charlie feud was ALL ginas/charlies fault. Not once did she just say 'hey you know what I was wrong in that situation'

A real strong powerful confident woman would have the guts to own up to her mistakes. Hazel doesnt, she deflects blame and divides people. How many times did she switch alliances?? Told dex, dan and twins on seperate occasions she liked ONLY them. She was a liar and she twisted other peoples comments to suit her own ends.

Was a good HM but a terrible person and certainly not somebody to look up to.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely and again I agree with you Niamh.
Very valid point as to Hazel just defending herself and she did it all brilliantly in my view too.

[Kizzy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jegmeister View Post
There are plenty of good HMs left in - Gina, Dexter...

''LOL

You call Hazel out for being narcissistic and manipulative yet you like Dexter & Gina?

Pot, meet kettle....''

this x 1000

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Women can be strong and powerful without being manipulative bitches who use their looks to get what they want. Sad you dont know that.

She openly admitted she was a sh** stirrer ffs, and revels in it. When she explained to Charlie why she turned on her she nicely omitted the part where she made up blatant lies about stuff Charlie said and massively over embellished what Gina said.

OP was right, Daley situation was ALL his fault. Gina feud was ALL ginas fault. Charlie feud was ALL ginas/charlies fault. Not once did she just say 'hey you know what I was wrong in that situation'

A real strong powerful confident woman would have the guts to own up to her mistakes. Hazel doesnt, she deflects blame and divides people. How many times did she switch alliances?? Told dex, dan and twins on seperate occasions she liked ONLY them. She was a liar and she twisted other peoples comments to suit her own ends.


Was a good HM but a terrible person and certainly not somebody to look up to.

You summed it up better than my thread did. Thank you

[Kizzy]

pfft... hazel was just how she was on the VT, she was single and so what if she tickled some planks fancy in there?.... Big fat hairy deal!
Fugly gina justifies her language towards hazel as she has been painted as some fallen woman by the morality brigade ....foff!
Get a life.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

pfft... hazel was just how she was on the VT, she was single and so what if she tickled some planks fancy in there?.... Big fat hairy deal!
Fugly gina justifies her language towards hazel as she has been painted as some fallen woman by the morality brigade ....foff!
Get a life.

Hear, Hear! Gina is only trying to further her moron of a bf's career, Hazel's is the only career that'll get a lift out of this. Game.Set.And Match Hazel.

[crocs]

Hazel goes after what she wants, is tough and is interested in looks but I don't think she is narcissistic. People just throw that word around like they know what they talking about.

[Bridget51]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Clearly we weren't watching the same show. Gina is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

Utter rubbish

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She really isn't. The only time Hazel has become "nasty" is when she's been backed into a corner and felt like she had to defend herself, if you take a proper look through Big Brother history, you'll find a whole lot more genuine arseholes than Hazel

Exactly!This 100%