[jet]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

wrong in every respect. daley got booted, no after show, no chance to redeem himself etc and lost his girlfriend. he was a a disgrace though
she got 4 or 5 more weeks , she got away with her role in the disgusting incidents of that night , she was a homewrecker and she dodged the questions
she blamed daley, daley blamed himself and apologised....she disingenuously tried to justify being a homewrecker, he didn't, he apologised, though he did hint that hazel was part to blame and she was
daley was far more honest and accepting of his blame.
emma let her off the hook, probably sexism as she may go to cry

Since you have outright said I was wrong several times and forgotten that people are entitled to their opinions then I will say every single word you have said here is complete nonsense and wrong wrong wrong.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

People wanted answers? She's not a murderer.

Why does Hazel warrant a harsh interview and Daley a nice one where Emma can pass him the kleenex?

Hazel's criticised for sticking up for herself and articulately explaining her actions. Daley's pitied after blaming all his actions on Hazel.

Thank god it's over. Gina out next....

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

David Frost has been known to ask straight out: Why did you lie? And he is one of the world's top interviewers.

But if you use a little common sense, you will be able to think of ways of showing how Hazel lied without even using the term.

Unfortunately Emma is simply not up to that sort of interview. As I have said before she is only suited to light and fluffy.

Why oh why didn't they get David Frost to do the interview????

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The trouble is none of the BB presenters has to courage to suggest to Hazel that she - overall - enjoyed the incident in the safe house and to follow up with effective questions if she denies it.

"Why didn't you........

- ask Daley to stop it

- shout out

etc etc"

"You only seemed to get worried when you heard the words "This is Big Brother......"

That is the only way to nail Hazel's lies about the incident. Daley is a a knuckleheaded piece of junk whose existence I would prefer not to acknowledge! Let me make that abundantly clear.

However, in the debate about whether the incident was playfighting or not I believe him and not Hazel.

Why would you believe a "knucklehead piece of junk" over Hazel? The hatred on here is unending!!

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

It well be interesting to see if there is any change in Hazel's demeanour tonight after she had a chance to absorb all the Hazel-hate out there.

Incidentally, it looks like Iain Lee will NOT be giving her a hard time, if his recent tweet is anything to go by.

Why would she absorb all the Hazel-hate out there?? She's not interested in the opinions of the mindless sheep,who wouldn't say boo to her if they met her face to face!

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

I don't recall her screaming you ugly ***** at anyone with her 2 middle digits showing

To someone who continually called her a "*****" and a "skank"!! I think Gina got off lightly. And I presume you would continually turn the other cheek?!?

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

wrong in every respect. daley got booted, no after show, no chance to redeem himself etc and lost his girlfriend. he was a a disgrace though
she got 4 or 5 more weeks , she got away with her role in the disgusting incidents of that night , she was a homewrecker and she dodged the questions
she blamed daley, daley blamed himself and apologised....she disingenuously tried to justify being a homewrecker, he didn't, he apologised, though he did hint that hazel was part to blame and she was
daley was far more honest and accepting of his blame.
emma let her off the hook, probably sexism as she may go to cry

Pure nonsense!!

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

Why would she absorb all the Hazel-hate out there?? She's not interested in the opinions of the mindless sheep,who wouldn't say boo to her if they met her face to face!

I would certainly say more than boo!

I would ask her why she lied and got a fellow housemate evicted as a result.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I would certainly say more than boo!

I would ask her why she lied and got a fellow housemate evicted as a result.

And would she care about your opinion? Probably not!
And if she replied "I didn't lie to get a fellow HM evicted",what would you do then??

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

And would she care about your opinion? Probably not!
And if she replied "I didn't lie to get a fellow HM evicted",what would you do then??

Then I provide her with the evidence. There is plenty.

[jet]

Seanbon owned Caudle.

[smeagol]

terraile interview didnt ask her anything normal, tried to put he down n failed n let hazel go on and on and on
she was great with sallie but she dropped the ball with hazel. didt ask the right questions n let her ramblle

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by jet

Seanbon owned Caudle.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Then I provide her with the evidence. There is plenty.

And she'll sit down with you as you provide her with all the evidence? What if she refutes the evidence,what then??

[jet]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The trouble is none of the BB presenters has to courage to suggest to Hazel that she - overall - enjoyed the incident in the safe house and to follow up with effective questions if she denies it.

"Why didn't you........

- ask Daley to stop it

- shout out

etc etc"

"You only seemed to get worried when you heard the words "This is Big Brother......"

That is the only way to nail Hazel's lies about the incident. Daley is a a knuckleheaded piece of junk whose existence I would prefer not to acknowledge! Let me make that abundantly clear.

However, in the debate about whether the incident was playfighting or not I believe him and not Hazel.

Ah, that's it, is it? A woman 'enjoys it' when a man goes too far and gets abusive towards her, and if she says she was scared she is a liar and must be questioned as to how she could possibly mind a big ape threatening her.
It's so damn sexy to a woman that, you know. I must try that on the wife next time she says she has a headache, she'll be panting for me in no time.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

David Frost has been known to ask straight out: Why did you lie? And he is one of the world's top interviewers.

But if you use a little common sense, you will be able to think of ways of showing how Hazel lied without even using the term.

Unfortunately Emma is simply not up to that sort of interview. As I have said before she is only suited to light and fluffy.

To people who have been caught in a lie (with evidence) or have changed their story. There is absolutely no evidence that Hazel "lied" to BB during the safehouse incident. They asked if she felt intimidated, she said yes. They didn't ask if it was a lot, a little bit, enough to not want to be near Daley, or just a bit shocked / it had gone too far. They just asked the flat out question "Were you feeling intimidated" and she said "yes". It is merely your opinion that she was not feeling intimidated at all. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

I actually think her interview with Emma made the safe house incident a lot clearer. She was "sort of" enjoying it, they were both drunk, it was getting a bit "weird" as things sometimes do but they were caught up in the moment and forgot where they were. Big Brother intervened and snapped them out of it and Hazel said in the interview, "So I thought maybe they had seen something that I hadn't because it was so dark" - I think we forget that it was very dark in there because the cams are night vision - she might have thought that they could see that his face looked angry / menacing, or that he was trying to get his penis out, or anything - and she even elaborated that "suddenly you're aware that you're there with someone you actually don't know very well". So, maybe she wasn't intimidated by what was going on until they intervened, but then when they did, she must have thought there was a reason for them doing so, that THEY thought she was at some sort of risk, and so was feeling a bit scared. It showed on her face when she went to the other side of the room - it's the ONLY time in the whole show that her "hard exterior" has cracked - so very unlikely it was an act.

TL;DR - she didn't lie to Big Brother. She answered their question which, IMO, could easily be seen as a loaded question in the first place. They could simply have asked if she was feeling OK about everything and guaged from her reaction how to proceed.

I also maintain that Daley would have been removed from the house no matter what she said, so it would be completely false to say that "her lies" got him removed. Even if she had said she was massively turned on by the whole thing and didn't consider it aggressive at all - HIS choice of words and actions were obviously seen as "triggers" for suffereres of domestic abuse. THAT is why he was removed.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

However, in the debate about whether the incident was playfighting or not I believe him and not Hazel.

This is a non-issue. Hazel has never said that it wasn't playfighting. In fact, I believe she herself described it as playfighting "that went too far" (as playfighting sometimes does) - which is exactly what it was.

[james130]

Think it was her worst and felt she let her own opinions of Hazel stop her from doing; what could have been, a great interview.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To people who have been caught in a lie (with evidence) or have changed their story. There is absolutely no evidence that Hazel "lied" to BB during the safehouse incident. They asked if she felt intimidated, she said yes. They didn't ask if it was a lot, a little bit, enough to not want to be near Daley, or just a bit shocked / it had gone too far. They just asked the flat out question "Were you feeling intimidated" and she said "yes". It is merely your opinion that she was not feeling intimidated at all. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

I actually think her interview with Emma made the safe house incident a lot clearer. She was "sort of" enjoying it, they were both drunk, it was getting a bit "weird" as things sometimes do but they were caught up in the moment and forgot where they were. Big Brother intervened and snapped them out of it and Hazel said in the interview, "So I thought maybe they had seen something that I hadn't because it was so dark" - I think we forget that it was very dark in there because the cams are night vision - she might have thought that they could see that his face looked angry / menacing, or that he was trying to get his penis out, or anything - and she even elaborated that "suddenly you're aware that you're there with someone you actually don't know very well". So, maybe she wasn't intimidated by what was going on until they intervened, but then when they did, she must have thought there was a reason for them doing so, that THEY thought she was at some sort of risk, and so was feeling a bit scared. It showed on her face when she went to the other side of the room - it's the ONLY time in the whole show that her "hard exterior" has cracked - so very unlikely it was an act.

TL;DR - she didn't lie to Big Brother. She answered their question which, IMO, could easily be seen as a loaded question in the first place. They could simply have asked if she was feeling OK about everything and guaged from her reaction how to proceed.

I also maintain that Daley would have been removed from the house no matter what she said, so it would be completely false to say that "her lies" got him removed. Even if she had said she was massively turned on by the whole thing and didn't consider it aggressive at all - HIS choice of words and actions were obviously seen as "triggers" for suffereres of domestic abuse. THAT is why he was removed.

Great post.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by jet

Ah, that's it, is it? A woman 'enjoys it' when a man goes too far and gets abusive towards her, and if she says she was scared she is a liar and must be questioned as to how she could possibly mind a big ape threatening her.
It's so damn sexy to a woman that, you know. I must try that on the wife next time she says she has a headache, she'll be panting for me in no time.
And that's why you believe the man and not the woman?

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To people who have been caught in a lie (with evidence) or have changed their story. There is absolutely no evidence that Hazel "lied" to BB during the safehouse incident. They asked if she felt intimidated, she said yes. They didn't ask if it was a lot, a little bit, enough to not want to be near Daley, or just a bit shocked / it had gone too far. They just asked the flat out question "Were you feeling intimidated" and she said "yes". It is merely your opinion that she was not feeling intimidated at all. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

I actually think her interview with Emma made the safe house incident a lot clearer. She was "sort of" enjoying it, they were both drunk, it was getting a bit "weird" as things sometimes do but they were caught up in the moment and forgot where they were. Big Brother intervened and snapped them out of it and Hazel said in the interview, "So I thought maybe they had seen something that I hadn't because it was so dark" - I think we forget that it was very dark in there because the cams are night vision - she might have thought that they could see that his face looked angry / menacing, or that he was trying to get his penis out, or anything - and she even elaborated that "suddenly you're aware that you're there with someone you actually don't know very well". So, maybe she wasn't intimidated by what was going on until they intervened, but then when they did, she must have thought there was a reason for them doing so, that THEY thought she was at some sort of risk, and so was feeling a bit scared. It showed on her face when she went to the other side of the room - it's the ONLY time in the whole show that her "hard exterior" has cracked - so very unlikely it was an act.

TL;DR - she didn't lie to Big Brother. She answered their question which, IMO, could easily be seen as a loaded question in the first place. They could simply have asked if she was feeling OK about everything and guaged from her reaction how to proceed.

I also maintain that Daley would have been removed from the house no matter what she said, so it would be completely false to say that "her lies" got him removed. Even if she had said she was massively turned on by the whole thing and didn't consider it aggressive at all - HIS choice of words and actions were obviously seen as "triggers" for suffereres of domestic abuse. THAT is why he was removed.

[brianna_jones]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

People wanted answers? She's not a murderer.

Why does Hazel warrant a harsh interview and Daley a nice one where Emma can pass him the kleenex?

Hazel's criticised for sticking up for herself and articulately explaining her actions. Daley's pitied after blaming all his actions on Hazel.

Thank god it's over. Gina out next....

Well said! Best post of the day!

[Tom4784]

Emma's a pretty good host, anyone that dislikes her should be glad we no longer have to suffer Brian any more.

[brianna_jones]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To people who have been caught in a lie (with evidence) or have changed their story. There is absolutely no evidence that Hazel "lied" to BB during the safehouse incident. They asked if she felt intimidated, she said yes. They didn't ask if it was a lot, a little bit, enough to not want to be near Daley, or just a bit shocked / it had gone too far. They just asked the flat out question "Were you feeling intimidated" and she said "yes". It is merely your opinion that she was not feeling intimidated at all. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

I actually think her interview with Emma made the safe house incident a lot clearer. She was "sort of" enjoying it, they were both drunk, it was getting a bit "weird" as things sometimes do but they were caught up in the moment and forgot where they were. Big Brother intervened and snapped them out of it and Hazel said in the interview, "So I thought maybe they had seen something that I hadn't because it was so dark" - I think we forget that it was very dark in there because the cams are night vision - she might have thought that they could see that his face looked angry / menacing, or that he was trying to get his penis out, or anything - and she even elaborated that "suddenly you're aware that you're there with someone you actually don't know very well". So, maybe she wasn't intimidated by what was going on until they intervened, but then when they did, she must have thought there was a reason for them doing so, that THEY thought she was at some sort of risk, and so was feeling a bit scared. It showed on her face when she went to the other side of the room - it's the ONLY time in the whole show that her "hard exterior" has cracked - so very unlikely it was an act.

TL;DR - she didn't lie to Big Brother. She answered their question which, IMO, could easily be seen as a loaded question in the first place. They could simply have asked if she was feeling OK about everything and guaged from her reaction how to proceed.

I also maintain that Daley would have been removed from the house no matter what she said, so it would be completely false to say that "her lies" got him removed. Even if she had said she was massively turned on by the whole thing and didn't consider it aggressive at all - HIS choice of words and actions were obviously seen as "triggers" for suffereres of domestic abuse. THAT is why he was removed.

Another great post on this topic! Glad to see there are people thinking clearly and not just looking for a witch hunt.

[CaudleHalbard]

The very fact that BB had to ask Hazel the question should tell you something.... but probably doesn't! Lol!

The fact that they allowed her to go back into the safe house although they have a duty of care should also tell you something... but again probably doesn't.

Never mind. They are both out of the house now. I suspect there may be a (magazine) "reconciliation" at some point, provided Daley isn't still fuming about it. I wonder if he and Callum have chatted about the incident on their recent night out?