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Old 29-08-2013, 08:42 PM #26
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Some corners of society are of the belief that even the boston bombing was instigated by the american government. They are easily the most corrupt in the world.
Yeah I saw a documentary about that. Apparently a "teacher"that was supposed to have died at the sandy hook shooting was at the boston site
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They reckon he'll be out in about 7 years.
That's still 7 years too long for such an honourable and decent guy like Bradley.
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That's still 7 years too long for such an honourable and decent guy like Bradley.
Amen to that sister!

I've listened to him speak. He's the sanest man in the world. Plus he has a conscience.
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I've a tonne more to ad to this topic, but where does one start.
At the beginning ?
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Yeah I saw a documentary about that. Apparently a "teacher"that was supposed to have died at the sandy hook shooting was at the boston site
The American Government have been involved in questionable 'operations' for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods is just one of many
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At the beginning ?
OK. Since you asked.

Bradley Manning was an intelligence officer. He observed that US troops were being used to identify political opponent of the the govt. These people were arrest and never seen again. POLITICAL opponents wiped out, delivered bu US intelligence, labeled terrorists, then imprisoned, jailed, tortured and killed. This is precisely what Manning reported to his bosses, and told to ignore.
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If you've heard Bradley Manning speak, he has wisdom beyond his years.
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OK. Since you asked.

Bradley Manning was an intelligence officer. He observed that US troops were being used to identify political opponent of the the govt. These people were arrest and never seen again. POLITICAL opponents wiped out, delivered bu US intelligence, labeled terrorists, then imprisoned, jailed, tortured and killed. This is precisely what Manning reported to his bosses, and told to ignore.
I don't doubt it for a single second.
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The THING is: People who vilify him for not going down the official route haven't a leg to stand on. HE DID! He brought his concerns to his commanding officers, and they told him to ignore it.
He is a remarkable young man for taking his concerns beyond, to the point where he faced a huge prison sentence. He is a HERO, possibly the greatest hero of our time.
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She is guilty, and I agree with Roy, she should have been sentenced to longer.
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No.........I agree with Nemo's argument which is well explained with plenty of back up narrative and reading. I think some of the other Posts arguing against Mr/Ms Manning have no substance in them at all.....

Personally I feel this person has taken a stand for the greater good to try and highlight some grave injustices being carried out under the banner of War. He may be a little misguided in the way he has done this but his motives are genuine and to sentence him to 35 years in Jail is Shameful.........!!!
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35 years... how long is that for every document he released? I hope he never comes out.

If they hadn't jailed him for a long time it would have opened the floodgates for everyone who suddenly decides to do their own thing.
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If you've heard Bradley Manning speak, he has wisdom beyond his years.
Half a million documents. Not twenty, not a hundred... half a million.

If you're going to display a picture of the traitor as your avatar, it would be great if you could show him as he chooses to appear now, and not wearing the uniform he disgraced.
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What does it matter is it was one or a million, if you feel that there are things that need to be in the public arena then that's what you have to do.
It's not being a traitor it's being humanitarian, far from disgraceful I feel that these acts are to be applauded.
Conformity is not mandatory, yet.
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Here is a link to The Young Turks. Fast forward to 1.20 for part of Manning testimony.

It's on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaa9tsQKgYY

Listen how he tried to obey his orders but was ignored by his superiors.
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No.........I agree with Nemo's argument which is well explained with plenty of back up narrative and reading. I think some of the other Posts arguing against Mr/Ms Manning have no substance in them at all.....

Personally I feel this person has taken a stand for the greater good to try and highlight some grave injustices being carried out under the banner of War. He may be a little misguided in the way he has done this but his motives are genuine and to sentence him to 35 years in Jail is Shameful.........!!!
I missed this, thanks. It's a good point to mark another week in jail for him.
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