[Nemo123]

I can't stand her or the family she comes from. They're all manipulators and chancers. The Keith Allen show about them exposed.

[cfromhx02]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I agree. I love Lauren. I think she's great. And

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

Feel for you mate,and can never relate to what you've gone through,and presumably are still going through! Too many narrow minded muppets about,but hopefully enough people with brain cells to counter the balance?!? Take care.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people;

I've got no love for the eviction crowds, nor do I think Lauren is playing the victim...but to say that those who booed Lauren proves that they are transphobic is just wrong, some might be, but it could be possible that not everyone likes Lauren for fair reasons.

PLEASE, don't play that card simply because not everyone likes the trans gendered HM.

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I've got no love for the eviction crowds, nor do I think Lauren is playing the victim...but to say that those who booed Lauren proves that they are transphobic is just wrong, some might be, but it could be possible that not everyone likes Lauren for fair reasons.

PLEASE, don't play that card simply because not everyone likes the trans gendered HM.

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

Amen to that.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

..I don't think she is a manipulator, maybe she is and I don't see it but I think the 'bullying/victim cards' she seems to play are because she probably has had a life of people being scathing about who she is and so assumes everyone's actions are motivated the same, when maybe they just don't like her as a person...I think she genuinely can't differentiate....

[EatMyFlan]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

You are the only person to make sense.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by EatMyFlan

You are the only person to make sense.

WELL SAID EAT MY FLAN. I totally agree xx

[EatMyFlan]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with her being transgendered!!! It's because she is a selfish prat who only thinks of herself. Stop being so stupid.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I once knew a transgendered person and can confirm that almost everythlng you wrote about happened to her also. What saddens me is that cowards find it so easy to gang up on those who are different, yet fail to see in their need for violent abuse; it's the victim who usually has the strength and courage which they lack.

The overiding memory I have of the person that I once knew, is being impressed by her determination to be who she knew she was, despite ignorant
and violent scum thinking they had the right to abuse her with their hatred and intolerence.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by calyman

I once knew a transgendered person and can confirm that almost everythlng you wrote about happened to her also. What saddens me is that cowards find it so easy to gang up on those who are different, yet fail to see in their need for violent abuse; it's the victim who usually has the strength and courage which they lack.

The overiding memory I have of the person that I once knew, is being impressed by her determination to be who she knew she was, despite ignorant
and violent scum thinking they had the right to abuse her with their hatred and intolerence.

Not sure where you live but where I am there is a gay/lesbian pub/bar/club that is probably one of thee most popular places to go there are plenty of transgender girls and everyone seems to get on great.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I'm really sorry to hear you have suffered abuse for being who you are, some people are very small minded and cruel. I don't actually agree though with what you say about people who are ok with transgendered people are indeed uncomfortable deep down, it sounds like you are accusing many people of being pretentious and that is not necessarily the case and a little unfair of you to come to that conclusion about everyone. I would be comfortable with anyone be they straight, gay, transgendered, cross dresser etc, as long as people treat me with the respect that they themselves would like then I would be fine with anyone, we are all human beings after all. I do see where you are coming from though, unfortunately there is still a lot of ignorance and small mindedness around, I do however believe as time is going on because of the education of equality and diversity in modern day times people are becoming more and more accepting. I think some, note I say some, transgendered, gay, ethnic minorities could quite possibly blame everything that goes wrong in their lives on the fact that they are 'different' and it could be that perhaps it is their own attitude that may cause the bigotry. I do hope you have plenty of people around you that care about you, family and friends are the only people that matter,. Hold your head up high and be who you want to be, stay around positive people and you will find happiness.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm really sorry to hear you have suffered abuse for being who you are, some people are very small minded and cruel. I don't actually agree though with what you say about people who are ok with transgendered people are indeed uncomfortable deep down, it sounds like you are accusing many people of being pretentious and that is not necessarily the case and a little unfair of you to come to that conclusion about everyone. I would be comfortable with anyone be they straight, gay, transgendered, cross dresser etc, as long as people treat me with the respect that they themselves would like then I would be fine with anyone, we are all human beings after all. I do see where you are coming from though, unfortunately there is still a lot of ignorance and small mindedness around, I do however believe as time is going on because of the education of equality and diversity in modern day times people are becoming more and more accepting. I think some, note I say some, transgendered, gay, ethnic minorities could quite possibly blame everything that goes wrong in their lives on the fact that they are 'different' and it could be that perhaps it is their own attitude that may cause the bigotry. I do hope you have plenty of people around you that care about you, family and friends are the only people that matter,. Hold your head up high and be who you want to be, stay around positive people and you will find happiness.

[Kizzy]

To a certain extent yes, I just don't think this was the best Idea for Lauren to come on the show, she has said herself she is very sheltered at home with her family. She's really struggling in there it's not entertaining watching her, I feel very uncomfortable at times especially with the sniggering about singing and such.

[Videostar]

I don't think Lauren is playing the victim...I don't think Lauren knows whats going on, if you ask me.

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I don't think Lauren is playing the victim...I don't think Lauren knows whats going on, if you ask me.

I agree,Lauren is a very mixed up person.

[Northern Monkey]

I think she's stark raving bonkers,Or atleast one sandwich short of a picnic.She seems to smother poor Courtney,I don't think Courtney knew what she was getting into when she befriended Lauren.I think Lauren would benefit from being out of that house tbh.It's hard enough in there for anyone,nevermind someone as fragile and socially inept as Lauren.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I think she's stark raving bonkers,Or atleast one sandwich short of a picnic.She seems to smother poor Courtney,I don't think Courtney knew what she was getting into when she befriended Lauren.I think Lauren would benefit from being out of that house tbh.It's hard enough in there for anyone,nevermind someone as fragile and socially inept as Lauren.

Needs to get out asap,and probably should never have gone in,but again the "stark raving bonkers" is so out of order!! Imagine if she was a friend or a family member,grow up!?!?!?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

Needs to get out asap,and probably should never have gone in,but again the "stark raving bonkers" is so out of order!! Imagine if she was a friend or a family member,grow up!?!?!?

She's defo on another planet mentally.imo

[Johnnyuk123]

Lauren is a great housemate! Love her!

[south12345]

No doubt Lauren has some mental health issues which make her appear to be playing the part of the victim
Cocooned in her family home she has not learnt the necessary social skills to interact with others at this level, esp not celebrities with big egos. But because of her naivety and lack of social skills she is going about it the wrong way.So people are turning against her, not because she is transgender, but simply because she is misunderstood. Rejection has been a big part of her life and so when it appears she is being rejected by her fellow HMs and the public she retreats into her bubble and the tears flow....

[CaudleHalbard]

Why Lauren even a celebrity? Apart from appear on BOTS, she hasn't done anything for about 25 years has she?

I know one could say similarly of Courtney..... but at least she's more current!

[Pincho Paxton]

All the best bits have Lauren in them this year. Most of the best bits do not play the victim card, but some do...

Best bits...

1/ Funny Hairstyling.
2/ Funny dance
3/ Funny song
4/ Carol sends Lauren to Sophie
5/ Courtney you are my best friend
6/ Courtney wore a slutty dress
7/ Lauren is not picked for the party
8/ Lauren and Tablet-gate
9/ Lauren goes to bed
10/ Lauren locked in the toilet
11/ Bruce Goes Mad
12/ Brush gets stuck in hair

So Lauren to win is a fair vote!