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Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:00 PM

I don't care if it's 'cool' or not to dislike him I don't rate his music or him as a human being that's all there is to it. If the paparazzi gets on his nerves so much he might want to try being less controversial, he might end up with a better relationship with the gutter press.

Kate! · 01-10-2013, 10:00 PM

I think he thinks he's of a level to Michael Jackson status though Kaz

he comes across that self obsessed and arrogant IMO. That's probably why he wanted the monkey.

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:03 PM

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I think he thinks he's of a level to Michael Jackson status though Kaz

he comes across that self obsessed and arrogant IMO. That's probably why he wanted the monkey.

Difference is Michael Jackson made bloody good music not this "baby, baby oh baby thought you'd always be mine" crap that makes all the 13 year old girls want to throw themselves on stage.

Mystic Mock · 01-10-2013, 10:05 PM

Bieber doesn't seem to do anything right in Showbiz so how are we suppose to be nice about him?

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:07 PM

I like him and I like Michael Jackson,they are not interfering in my life so it doesn't bug me tbh,I have never taken a tabloids words as fact,that's just me I guess,everyone to their own,I also like 1 Direction,kill me now.

Mystic Mock · 01-10-2013, 10:07 PM

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Difference is Michael Jackson made bloody good music not this "baby, baby oh baby thought you'd always be mine" crap that makes all the 13 year old girls want to throw themselves on stage.

His Music is aimed at younger than 13 year olds.

Jack_ · 01-10-2013, 10:10 PM

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I think he thinks he's of a level to Michael Jackson status though Kaz

he comes across that self obsessed and arrogant IMO. That's probably why he wanted the monkey.

In all honesty, the large majority of heterosexual nineteen year old guys that have gone through their teenage years with 30 million girls around the world wanting them inside them are going to be pretty self-obsessed, if you're put on an international pedestal at that age when most fifteen year olds already think they're Gods gift to earth it's no surprise what can happen

Give it five years and everything will come crashing down for him, and I feel quite bad. It's this celebrity culture that can have such damaging effects on people when it all comes to an end, and when people have entered that world so young it's only going to affect them more. Aside from being a celebrity obsessed nation in general there are some real issues regarding this kind of thing that need addressing IMO

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:10 PM

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His Music is aimed at younger than 13 year olds.

Those poor kids

Mystic Mock · 01-10-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I like him and I like Michael Jackson,they are not interfering in my life so it doesn't bug me tbh,I have never taken a tabloids words as fact,that's just me I guess,everyone to their own,I also like 1 Direction,kill me now.

Liking Michael Jackson I can understand, but Bieber and One Direction!? Each to their own and all that but I always dread listening to their Music when my Niece comes over lol.

Mystic Mock · 01-10-2013, 10:13 PM

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Those poor kids

I know.

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:13 PM

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Liking Michael Jackson I can understand, but Bieber and One Direction!? Each to their own and all that but I always dread listening to their Music when my Niece comes over lol.

Mocky I have a 10 year old daughter,who drags me to these concerts

I took her to see Bieber in February,she was so happy how could I deny her that and if we are being honest here and not just bitchy,he put on a bloody good show.

Mrluvaluva · 01-10-2013, 10:13 PM

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I never said he's this lovely person, but seriously anything he does will be criticised, there's never any objectivity with regards to him

That's because of the way he's conducted himself in the past. The worst will be always thought about him until he curbs his tantrums and diva-esque behaviour. He hasn't exactly helped himself historically.

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:15 PM

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Mocky I have a 10 year old daughter,who drags me to these concerts

I took her to see Bieber in February,she was so happy how could I deny her that and if we are being honest here and not just bitchy,he put on a bloody good show.

Did he turn up on time?

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:15 PM

I think any young boy with that level of attention would go a little wild,it wont last forever,just let the kid enjoy it while it lasts.

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:16 PM

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Did he turn up on time?

yes ,spot on.

Jack_ · 01-10-2013, 10:17 PM

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Difference is Michael Jackson made bloody good music not this "baby, baby oh baby thought you'd always be mine" crap that makes all the 13 year old girls want to throw themselves on stage.

An attractive male could sing Baa Baa ****ing Black Sheep and a 13 year old girl would cream their pants, they're (for the most part) too young to be interested in musical integrity, they just want someone to idolise and have a crush on, that's all part of growing up. This generation isn't the first to go through it and they won't be the last either

Besides, I really don't think there's a lot of 14 - 18ish year old straight guys that wouldn't happily turn up to a recording studio and sing a one-hook-one-verse song that's already been written for them along with some autotune in order for them to go out on stage and have a load of girls their age scream for them to bone them backstage, as well as earning millions, travelling the world and being treated like a superstar. I'm pretty sure he knows his music is crap (and most importantly so do his record label who are laughing all the way to the bank that kids are lapping it up), he's just a brand...but if you can get that kind of lifestyle out of it at his age, you're not really going to turn it down. The problem comes when it eventually crashes and burns, that can have devastating effects psychologically, but I'm not really sure how it can be dealt with. I mean look at Macaulay Culkin a few years back...

None of this makes it right or just btw, that can be argued either way, but this is the kind of world we live in.

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think any young boy with that level of attention would go a little wild,it wont last forever,just let the kid enjoy it while it lasts.

He is half the problem, the other half is this stupid obsession people have with being celebrities or wanting to be seen by them.

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

An attractive male could sing Baa Baa ****ing Black Sheep and a 13 year old girl would cream their pants, they're (for the most part) too young to be interested in musical integrity, they just want someone to idolise and have a crush on, that's all part of growing up. This generation isn't the first to go through it and they won't be the last either

Besides, I really don't think there's a lot of 14 - 18ish year old straight guys that wouldn't happily turn up to a recording studio and sing a one-hook-one-verse song that's already been written for them along with some autotune in order for them to go out on stage and have a load of girls their age scream for them to bone them backstage, as well as earning millions, travelling the world and being treated like a superstar. I'm pretty sure he knows his music is crap (and most importantly so do his record label who are laughing all the way to the bank that kids are lapping it up), he's just a brand...but if you can get that kind of lifestyle out of it at his age, you're not really going to turn it down.

Very true Jack,lol is this a first

Mystic Mock · 01-10-2013, 10:22 PM

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Mocky I have a 10 year old daughter,who drags me to these concerts

I took her to see Bieber in February,she was so happy how could I deny her that and if we are being honest here and not just bitchy,he put on a bloody good show.

Don't get me wrong he doesn't offend me as badly as Cheryl Tweedy does, but what does me with the Bieber/One Direction/Olly Murs of the Music Industry is that they wouldn't even be charting if some girls/women didn't fancy them.

I know that guys can be shallow as well, but I don't think that it affects the Music Industry as badly as we do after all see guys buying Lady Gaga and Emeli Sande's Music and they aren't exactly stunners.

MeMyselfAndI · 01-10-2013, 10:22 PM

I just don't get the hate for Justin Bieber

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:23 PM

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He is half the problem, the other half is this stupid obsession people have with being celebrities or wanting to be seen by them.

I just find it really funny people are panning him for his behaviour,yet people voted Charlotte a winner in BB who pissed the bed and spoke like a fishwife,!!! WTF is that all about

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:25 PM

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Don't get me wrong he doesn't offend me as badly as Cheryl Tweedy does, but what does me with the Bieber/One Direction/Olly Murs of the Music Industry is that they wouldn't even be charting if some girls/women didn't fancy them.

I know that guys can be shallow as well, but I don't think that it affects the Music Industry as badly as we do after all see guys buying Lady Gaga and Emeli Sande's Music and they aren't exactly stunners.

Well Mocky I think it's always been like that tbh ,my mom had posters of David Cassidy,The Monkees etc on her wall as a kid ,I think it's a girl thing.lol

Kazanne · 01-10-2013, 10:26 PM

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I just don't get the hate for Justin Bieber

me neither,i don't get the hate for anyone like that really, as we don't really know them.

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I just find it really funny people are panning him for his behaviour,yet people voted Charlotte a winner in BB who pissed the bed and spoke like a fishwife,!!! WTF is that all about

There is no direct correlation between people panning Justin Bieber and voting Charlotte Crosby to win big brother, I never liked her either.

Kyle · 01-10-2013, 10:28 PM

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me neither,i don't get the hate for anyone like that really, as we don't really know them.

I don't know Hitler but I'm pretty sure I hate him.

And I don't hate Justin Bieber before you come in with "how can you compare him to that tyrant" I just think he's a bit of a clown shoe.

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