[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Nothing of the sort.

He put me on a smoking group thing, but I couldn't attend because if work. I only wanted the tablets.

I just looked on Amazon and they're £60-£175

The smoking group thing pisses me right off! I went to the docs and asked for patches and he said only if I attended some stupid meeting every week! Erm.. Thanks but no thanks!

[HD]

Champix is one the best things I've ever put in my mouth

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

Because like that Photo
they Abuse the No Smoking area.



While at Hospital
Stop Smoking
it will not kill you

Well... That's not necessarily true... If someone is in hospital for, say, blood pressure or heart issues (maybe caused by smoking, ironically) then stopping cold-turkey like that actually COULD kill them. It's highly chemically addictive - some weird and wonderful things happen to the body of people trying to quit - such as blood pressure spikes, anxiety attacks, etc... If you're not in the best of health, best to wean off slowly, not just stop. Same goes for pregnant women who are very heavy smokers - they should cut it out ASAP, but that means within a few weeks of finding out, not just there in the spot. A bloodpressure spike would be considered more risky for the pregnancy than smoking itself.

Why it can't be outright made illegal: for one, the tax money, but moreso, because you can't release a highly addictive substance for hundreds of years as legal (and make money from it), wait until a huge chunk of the population is addicted, and then say "sorry its illegal now! off to jail with you, junkies!". The process of banning it outright would be long, and expensive.

More on the topic of the thread - they should just find the area of the hospital with the worst aesthetics - maybe where the medical waste is collected - and have a sort of prison exercise yard style "smokers cage" where they all shuffle around like zombies having their cigarettes, out of sight. I definitely agree that there's nothing more foul than people puffing away at the main entrance. Or worse - the entrance to the maternity unit. sigh!

[Jemal]

Oh yea it does shift quite a lot of money the governments way..

[Vicky.]

Its already banned throughout the grounds in the hospital here. But people still do it. Staff and patients alike.

[Ammi]

..I thought it was already banned in hospital grounds, it is in all of the hospitals in Suffolk, I think...

[Jemal]

Our government are twats tbfh.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Can someone actually tell me why smoking isnt banned all together?
It's not like it offers any goodness for you so why in god name is it not banned all together?

Because it's none of your business what someone gets up to in their free time and no one need justify how it feels to you.

[Kizzy]

Good idea, it's not in place here there were smokers huddled round the entrance of the wing I visited last week. Patients in gowns... attatched to drips even
Can you imagine them trying to trundle offsite? The're a nuisance to patient transport as they were congregated where they're trying to facilitate patients in and out of the ambulances.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Can someone actually tell me why smoking isnt banned all together?
It's not like it offers any goodness for you so why in god name is it not banned all together?

Why isn't alcohol banned then?

[Livia]

I don't have a problem with them banning smoking on hospital grounds, indeed it's already banned at my local hospital. However, if they're going to ban long-term smokers from smoking, they have to help them with nicotine gum, patches, whatever they can do to help. If they were drug addicts they would be helped. Because the substance they're addicted to is legal - and incidentally, raises million and millions of pounds in tobacco duty for the treasury every year - doesn't mean they shouldn't get help.

[Kizzy]

If you're going to hospital take some with you.. While at work you don't ask your boss to provide these while on company premesis?
We know it raises lots of money, that's not the issue though.

[Livia]

Kizzy disagrees with me. Hold the front page.

[Kizzy]

I had already posted on this thread livia, it's not personal.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We know it raises lots of money, that's not the issue though.

This is a reference to my post above yours, is it not? Or just something you pulled out of the air?

Anyway...

People should be encouraged to stop smoking by being given help, rather than expecting an addict to go cold turkey. They wouldn't do that to an alcoholic or a drug addict, I don't see why some of the billions of pounds that smokers have put into the treasury can't be used to help them kick the habit.

[Kizzy]

No it isn't, toy story and others raised the tax issue before you entered the thread.
The NHS do provide help to quit, what I mean is I don't feel the hospital trusts should have to provide that service for patients, they have enough to do monitoring medical needs, but that's just mt view.
If you're addicted to alcohol they don't pull you a pint in A&E, that's legal and raises tax revenue too.

[Nedusa]

The whole smoking situation is full of hypocrisy, on the one hand the Govt is passing laws that make it more and more difficult for people to smoke BUT it is still legal so they should be able to smoke somewhere. On the other hand the Govt is raking in Millions upon Millions from duty on cigarettes.

And when people do stop the Govt bangs up the duty on fags to get the same money from less people, effectively making money out of peoples drug habits.

The Govt are acting no better than a Drug Dealer knowing that people will smoke however uncomfortable they make it by banning smoking from public places ,workplaces etc...

They want to be seen to do the right thing but still want their tax take from cigarettes.

If they were really serious then smoking would be banned and ALL smokers would be offered treatments to stop like withdrawing from Herion or Cocaine (Nicotine is actually more addictive than either of those two drugs).

The loss of money from cigarette duty would be somewhat offset by the reduced NHS costs in treating a wide variety of smoking related diseases.

This current fiasco has gone on long enough........!!!!!

[Roy Mars III]

either ban smoking all together, or stop with this stupid ****

[Marsh.]

I've got images of patients hooked up to drips and machines all lined up along the main road outside the hospital premises puffing away.