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Kate! · 15-12-2013, 08:53 AM

Ok, hear me out. I do listen to other people's opinions and am one of the most forgiving people alive lol, I'm very soft hearted. I made up with Glenn, despite months of ranting at each other and even telling each other to eff off and other nice things

I was (IMO) very close to Scott, he's from my hometown, I felt a bond with him, he made me laugh so so much, and also I really really feel for him and his problems. I used to post on his wall a lot, just random stuff to try and boost his spirits (daft gifs etc).

No-one, except Glenn to his credit, has ever had the decency to apologise for anything said in this whole affair, but then again they are hiding behind anonymity as Ammi says and so Scott faced the flak alone.

It made my (and others affected by it) blood boil when people instantly jumped to Scott's defence and I personally saw him comment after the event that we should all die, in a rant offsite which hardly demonstrates any remorse?

However, I'll say this. IF he's allowed to return here at any point, I won't be raising an objection, I do know how much he loves this place and people love him. I do think what he did was bad enough to justify the action taken, but I also feel (in all honesty, and I said this at the time) that he was hung out to dry by the others who happily took part in the vitriol and then put their heads down and let him be the scapegoat.

I've had a crap year, I'm signed off work sick ATM and I'm just about managing to keep it all together. I don't want to go into 2014 with bad feeling between me and anyone on here. I mean ANYONE. If Scott ever came back I'd consider it a clean slate, which I actually think is MORE courtesy than his actions merit but there you go.

Lee. · 15-12-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Ok, hear me out. I do listen to other people's opinions and am one of the most forgiving people alive lol, I'm very soft hearted. I made up with Glenn, despite months of ranting at each other and even telling each other to eff off and other nice things

I was (IMO) very close to Scott, he's from my hometown, I felt a bond with him, he made me laugh so so much, and also I really really feel for him and his problems. I used to post on his wall a lot, just random stuff to try and boost his spirits (daft gifs etc).

No-one, except Glenn to his credit, has ever had the decency to apologise for anything said in this whole affair, but then again they are hiding behind anonymity as Ammi says and so Scott faced the flak alone.

It made my (and others affected by it) blood boil when people instantly jumped to Scott's defence and I personally saw him comment after the event that we should all die, in a rant offsite which hardly demonstrates any remorse?

However, I'll say this. IF he's allowed to return here at any point, I won't be raising an objection, I do know how much he loves this place and people love him. I do think what he did was bad enough to justify the action taken, but I also feel (in all honesty, and I said this at the time) that he was hung out to dry by the others who happily took part in the vitriol and then put their heads down and let him be the scapegoat.

I've had a crap year, I'm signed off work sick ATM and I'm just about managing to keep it all together. I don't want to go into 2014 with bad feeling between me and anyone on here. I mean ANYONE. If Scott ever came back I'd consider it a clean slate, which I actually think is MORE courtesy than his actions merit but there you go.

What a nice post!

Kate! · 15-12-2013, 08:54 AM

Ok, hear me out. I do listen to other people's opinions and am one of the most forgiving people alive lol, I'm very soft hearted. I made up with Glenn, despite months of ranting at each other and even telling each other to eff off and other nice things

I was (IMO) very close to Scott, he's from my hometown, I felt a bond with him, he made me laugh so so much, and also I really really feel for him and his problems. I used to post on his wall a lot, just random stuff to try and boost his spirits (daft gifs etc).

No-one, except Glenn to his credit, has ever had the decency to apologise for anything said in this whole affair, but then again they are hiding behind anonymity as Ammi says and so Scott faced the flak alone.

It made my (and others affected by it) blood boil when people instantly jumped to Scott's defence and I personally saw him comment after the event that we should all die, in a rant offsite which hardly demonstrates any remorse?

However, I'll say this. IF he's allowed to return here at any point, I won't be raising an objection, I do know how much he loves this place and people love him. I do think what he did was bad enough to justify the action taken, but I also feel (in all honesty, and I said this at the time) that he was hung out to dry by the others who happily took part in the vitriol and then put their heads down and let him be the scapegoat.

I've had a crap year, I'm signed off work sick ATM and I'm just about managing to keep it all together. I don't want to go into 2014 with bad feeling between me and anyone on here. I mean ANYONE. If Scott ever came back I'd consider it a clean slate, which I actually think is MORE courtesy than his actions merit but there you go.

Jake. · 15-12-2013, 08:55 AM

Kate

that's really good of you tbh

Marc · 15-12-2013, 08:57 AM

I don't see the immediate trouble with discussing the matter. Regardless of the number of supporters the decision is left to the MODs and ultimately James. For example of this is the Razzies; that poll was overwhelming in favour but it's not happening on the forum.

So I don't see a problem discussing it; other banned members get discussed all the time. It's not going to be a problem just discussing it

thesheriff443 · 15-12-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc

I don't see the immediate trouble with discussing the matter. Regardless of the number of supporters the decision is left to the MODs and ultimately James. For example of this is the Razzies; that poll was overwhelming in favour but it's not happening on the forum.

So I don't see a problem discussing it; other banned members get discussed all the time. It's not going to be a problem just discussing it

you no, that's not true, when kate was banned people got told to stop or else!,
in fact kates name on here was a swear word.
im not talking about scott and his ban anymore.

15-12-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you no, that's not true, when kate was banned people got told to stop or else!,
in fact kates name on here was a swear word.
im not talking about scott and his ban anymore.

That was her friends - no one else. Anyone that even mentioned the wedding were reported, so it wasn't that Kates name was banned, but her close friends tried to make that the case.

thesheriff443 · 15-12-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

That was her friends - no one else. Anyone that even mentioned the wedding were reported, so it wasn't that Kates name was banned, but her close friends tried to make that the case.

so what's the difference in what ammi is doing?
I wont be here to read your reply, im of to do the food shopping.

15-12-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

so what's the difference in what ammi is doing?
I wont be here to read your reply, im of to do the food shopping.

The difference here, is that Scotts friends (of which both Ammi and I are 2) are encouraging discussion about his situation, not trying to prevent anyone from even saying his name, like he's tibbs version of beetlejuice.

Kate! · 15-12-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

That was her friends - no one else. Anyone that even mentioned the wedding were reported, so it wasn't that Kates name was banned, but her close friends tried to make that the case.

Can you not drop this? Polite request?

15-12-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Can you not drop this? Polite request?

Kate I haven't raised anything, or had a go at anyone. Sheriff brought up that point, and I explained what happened. There is nothing to drop really.

GypsyGoth · 15-12-2013, 08:59 AM

Thanks Kate

And Sheriff, Scott was given an indefinite ban, not a permanent one. From what I know the whole point of that type of ban was so it could be reviewed later and lifted when appropriate.

thesheriff443 · 15-12-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Thanks Kate

And Sheriff, Scott was given an indefinite ban, not a permanent one. From what I know the whole point of that type of ban was so it could be reviewed later and lifted when appropriate.

you know I love gg!
the problem is, it should not be up for discussion on the forum.
ammi is well respected on this site, she should be doing this by pm.

but this subject raises the question of fairness,

GypsyGoth · 15-12-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you know I love gg!
the problem is, it should not be up for discussion on the forum.
ammi is well respected on this site, she should be doing this by pm.

but this subject raises the question of fairness,

I understand that and I agree but the solution should be that we can discuss banned members like this, in a thread where there is no arguing and people are listening to each other's point of view.

Jake. · 15-12-2013, 09:04 AM

Boom!

Vanessa · 15-12-2013, 09:08 AM

Are we allowed to talk about banned members? I thought it was against the rules.

Benjamin · 15-12-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Are we allowed to talk about banned members? I thought it was against the rules.

The rules say this:

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Do not make threads/posts asking why members are banned, you do not need to know.

This is more of an appeal I guess.

Ammi · 15-12-2013, 10:53 AM

..it's not even an appeal to say, please can Scott come back...more that there's nothing to be achieved now from extending/delaying a decision about it and to find out how members would feel if he was allowed back, which so far has been positive in that most people feel 'moving on' from things that have happened offsite this year would be best for everyone....

AnnieK · 15-12-2013, 09:09 AM

Ammi, Kate, Jesus, Jake and Glenn were all mentioned in the blog and are discussing it so I don't see a problem personally. As Kate said this year on here has been harsh on many members so why not try and air everything to try and dilute bad feeling.

Marc · 15-12-2013, 09:23 AM

Ammi.. Scott brought the matter onto the forum, posting the link more than once after being warned. He deliberately tried to get the blog some attention.

Ammi · 15-12-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc

Ammi.. Scott brought the matter onto the forum, posting the link more than once after being warned. He deliberately tried to get the blog some attention.

..yeah, I do know that, Marc..that was why I assumed he had a 3 week ban, which I actually totally supported as anyone I know would tell you...but the indefinite ban came at the end of that 3 weeks and seems more than adequate for posting the links....

Smithy · 15-12-2013, 09:25 AM

Someone please point out in the rules where it says you're not allowed to discuss banned member?

If people who were most offended by the blog say he should be given another chance, don't really see the problem, just make sure Scott knows it's his last chance and any more stupid **** and he'll be permbanned

Ammi · 15-12-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by G.U.Yule

Someone please point out in the rules where it says you're not allowed to discuss banned member?

If people who were most offended by the blog say he should be given another chance, don't really see the problem, just make sure Scott knows it's his last chance and any more stupid **** and he'll be permbanned

..yeah, I would have no defence/sympathy for him if there was any future 'incidents'..but no one knows that more than he does...