[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just watched it now

There was a girl on the panel who worked with him on Hell's Kitchen who said he was an absolutely vile man.

The girl is Adele King, lol she is hardly a saint herself ..

I saw that Hells Kitchen.It was Brian Dowling that got Jim kicked off it.The Chef clearly didn't want Jim to go.Dowling with his fake tears all of the time, ruined the show.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Personally I find him really funny...his one liners are awesome.
He is 'old school'...his comic act was that of a 'male chauvinist' as were many comedians.
People take him too seriously....he has done nothing on this show that was truly nasty...compared to what Linda and Luisa have thrown at him. I think he has handled it well.... When he bought up Frank Carson it was a little harsh but Linda had been goading him since the handcuffs came off and she deserved it IMO.
He gives big mouth Luisa a run for her money and 'owns' her every time....she is the vile one in there there is no doubt about it.
I hope Jim gets right to the end....he has been great!!!

The correct response!...I'm with you all the way Rusty!

Jim to win!...Linda to naff off!

[bez87]

It would be better if Linda just left all she does is bring everyone down,

I think Jim is a vile sexist pig but really he's just a typical man with a dry sense of humour and instead of keeping things to himself he just comes out and says thing, but it makes for great tv, on the other hand Linda is so boring and vile in her own right.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bez87

It would be better if Linda just left all she does is bring everyone down,

I think Jim is a vile sexist pig but really he's just a typical man with a dry sense of humour and instead of keeping things to himself he just comes out and says thing, but it makes for great tv, on the other hand Linda is so boring and vile in her own right.

I hate Linda with a passion. She's a nasty, vile, evil scumbag. She doesn't waste any chance to have a go at Jim. Nice to see Jim fighting back though. Good for him.

[Alf]

Jet's taking off

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Jet's taking off

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Jet's taking off

ROTFL

[Patricia4]

He's entertaining just sit back for goodness sake and enjoy it its a game.

Come on Jim my boy

[Seraphim]

People aren't being taken in by him. I can't believe you take it so seriously. It's a game show. Like everyone else, he is masking the worst aspects of his personality, but we've still seen him being grumpy, narky, impatient, anti-social, moody and more. We've also seen him being kind, supportive, funny, patient, long-suffering and truthful enough to say on camera that he's on his best behaviour because otherwise he'd be booted out. I would also put the martyred floor-sleeping Jim into the positive category.. Absolutely priceless.

The psychologists on BOTS are basically there to be light-hearted, funny and a bit of fluff. They merely give their opinion - it's not gospel, and you cannot take anything they say as the final word. They only deal with one of many aspects of any person or situation. The last psychologist, who was also female, spoke of Jim very warmly and saw him as kind and nurturing. No-one is either black or white - we're all shades of grey. You can choose to filter out all the positive things about Jim and only see the negative. Others see both positive and negative, or simply vote for the person who brings most to the series or causes most drama.

I personally have been far more intrigued by him than by anyone else on the show. I've watched some footage of him on Youtube and read a few articles about him. I've been trying to suss him out. Conversely, at the beginning of the series, I saw right through Linda, and knew she'd soon be sitting in a huddle, ripping some poor person to shreds. If it hadn't been Jim, it'd have been someone else. She pretends she's caring, but in my opinion, she doesn't actually care about anyone except herself. And some people will eventually clock on. Maybe Jim cares about nobody but himself too, but he's smarter than she is and I'll be surprised if she isn't out before him, despite her having the strongest alliance in the house.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

People aren't being taken in by him. I can't believe you take it so seriously. It's a game show. We have seen many unattractive aspects of his behaviour: being grumpy, narky, moody, and more. Like everyone else, he is masking the worst aspects of his personality. We've also seen him being kind, supportive, funny and long-suffering and truthful enough to say on camera that he's on his best behaviour because it's a show, and that if he showed his real personality he'd be booted out the first week. I would also put the martyred floor-sleeping Jim into the positive category.. Absolutely priceless.

The psychologists on BOTS are basically there to be a light-hearted, funny and a bit of fluff. They merely give their opinion - it's not gospel, and you cannot take anything they say as the final word and the only aspect to any person or situation. The last psychologist, who was also female, spoke of him very warmly and saw him as kind and nurturing. No-one is either black or white - we're all shades of grey. You can choose to filter out all the positives things about Jim and only see the negative. Others see both positive and negative, or simply vote for the person who brings most to the series or causes most drama.

I personally have been far more intrigued by him than by anyone else on the show. I've watched some footage of him on Youtube and read a few articles about him. I've been trying to suss him out. Conversely, at the beginning of the series, I saw right through Linda, and knew she'd soon be sitting in a huddle, ripping some poor person to shreds. If it hadn't been Jim, it'd have been someone else. She pretends she's caring, but in my opinion, she doesn't actually care about anyone except herself. And people will eventually clock on. Maybe Jim cares about nobody but himself too, but he's smarter than she is and I'll be surprised if she isn't out before him, despite her having the strongest alliance in the house.

Bravo. "Dr" Pam Spiers' assessment didn't fill me with much confidence. Seemed very biased and judgmental and the examples cited didn't necessarily qualify as evidence for her opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

Add me as an opterouter of the Jim worship too ,Im shocked the amount of support hes got and it beggars belief why?Hes sly, sneaky anti women,a coward as he only shouts at women, and bloody arrogant ,I am judging him in the house,not outside

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He's sly, sneaky anti women, a coward as he only shouts at women, and bloody arrogant ,I am judging him in the house,not outside

Huh? What show are you watching? He hasn't shouted at anyone, in spite of Linda not forgiving him for a fued caused by Jim shouting at her husband - a man.

With the exception of Ollie and Casey, I cannot think of anyone in the house who isn't arrogant to an extent. Luisa and Linda are the most arrogant people in there, imo.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Huh? What show are you watching? He hasn't shouted at anyone, in spite of Linda not forgiving him for a fued caused by Jim shouting at her husband - a man.

With the exception of Ollie and Casey, I cannot think of anyone in the house who isn't arrogant to an extent. Luisa and Linda are the most arrogant people in there, imo.

This show....
I see it too, as do others.
Linda may have been ott in her responses to jim, but to expect her to forgive him is a bit much.
He bitches and moans about linda and luisa more than they ever have about him as far as I see it.
He manipulates situations from nothing, perfect example was him whining to dappy yesterday over luisa snapping as she prepared potatoes...seems jim can make a drama from nothing huh?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This show....
I see it too, as do others.
Linda may have been ott in her responses to jim, but to expect her to forgive him is a bit much.
He bitches and moans about linda and luisa more than they ever have about him as far as I see it.
He manipulates situations from nothing, perfect example was him whining to dappy yesterday over luisa snapping as she prepared potatoes...seems jim can make a drama from nothing huh?

EXACTLY Kizzy HE starts every argument in there,NEVER,EVER with a man, hes too much of a coward to do that

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EXACTLY Kizzy HE starts every argument in there,NEVER,EVER with a man, hes too much of a coward to do that

It is simple really.... None of the men are bothering him. It is only the two silly women who are causing the problem.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EXACTLY Kizzy HE starts every argument in there,NEVER,EVER with a man, hes too much of a coward to do that

I agree, the other night dappy was screaming and carrying on far worse than luisa, before and after he went to bed...
But what did jim say to him?... nowt!
He set up the bullet for luisa to fire with the whole carson thing, bemoans to anyone who'll listen about how awful luisa is, for a bloke in his 60s that's sad...
He's rude and dismissive to linda and liz, was offensive to casey... he's a nightmare!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Huh? What show are you watching? He hasn't shouted at anyone, in spite of Linda not forgiving him for a fued caused by Jim shouting at her husband - a man.

With the exception of Ollie and Casey, I cannot think of anyone in the house who isn't arrogant to an extent. Luisa and Linda are the most arrogant people in there, imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Huh? What show are you watching? He hasn't shouted at anyone, in spite of Linda not forgiving him for a fued caused by Jim shouting at her husband - a man.

With the exception of Ollie and Casey, I cannot think of anyone in the house who isn't arrogant to an extent. Luisa and Linda are the most arrogant people in there, imo.

I will pull you up on one point here ,not a man a DEAD man who cannot answer for himself,

[Shaun]

Pretty much agree with Cherie. He doesn't make any extra money if he wins, and he's not exactly going to be all over telly again

[Beso]

BB are trying there hardest to give him bad edits and make him out to look bad on the spin off shows..don't let them dupe you.

[Slevin]

lol Jim **** stirs as well as those two but i dont hold my fave on pedestal.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by jet

He's a vile man and an attention seeker - and all but one person (Linda Lasarti) has confirmed it on BOTS. Tonight Dr. Pam Speirs said he was an authoritarian who seeks attention and gave the example of him going to bed early and getting up again to draw that attention to himself. I have said that all along.
There was a girl on the panel who worked with him on Hell's Kitchen who said he was an absolutely vile man.
Most of the other panelists since the start of the series have nothing good to say about him.

He is well known as sexist, racist, homophobic and long ago wife beater. He admits to being a male chauvinist pig.

The majority of the HM's don't like him. He plays the victim to the hilt and so many viewers have fallen for it that it's scary. He drops sexist remarks to rile the women up and then when they take the bait he acts all innocent and surprised and picked on.

He is a miserable sod who doesn't like music, dancing or fun so other people are at fault for wanting to let their hair down. It's all for effect and attention, of course. If he just went to bed and stayed there - or sat there and enjoyed other people having a good time, the camera wouldn't be on him, would it?

For the first time ever on this forum I am really sickened by the support of someone who frankly, is such an asshole. If the Great British Public really want an asshole for a winner, they couldn't have made a better choice.
Well done. A piss and s**t the bed winner last time around (who was at least likable) - now the vile but newly worshiped Jim Davidson. Such discernment.

Over and out and enjoy your winner. I opt out of any more of this madness as many of you will be glad to hear. Bye

Bye then.

Do you mind just quickly ironing my shirt before you go ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Bye then.

Do you mind just quickly ironing my shirt before you go ?

That's the spirit,

[Spoon]

FWIW, I think very few American viewers understand why anyone would tolerate, let alone like Jim.

[Haylei]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I disagree Chuff.... Jim has not shown himself to be a male chauvinist. He has an Old school view to male/female roles in life.... However he has not been nasty to anyone.

He admitted that he was a chauvinist. And I'm sorry but I'm really tired of the "oh it's just because he's old school." My grandparents are 10-20 years older than Jim and would never act like him, especially on TV. He's just a bad person that needs to grow up and realize that the world has changed. He also has been pretty nasty with the intentions of his sly comments.

Sorry if that sounded harsh, I wasn't really trying to direct that at you Rusticgal, it was just in general because a lot of people seem to have the same POV as you.

Originally Posted by Spoon

FWIW, I think very few American viewers understand why anyone would tolerate, let alone like Jim.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if that's it. I feel like I just sound like I'm overreacting since basically everyone else feels fine with it. If this was in America I do not think Jim would fare that well; we have much more censorship and are more PC.