[Z]

Originally Posted by Arrow

just giving people a reality check people are trying to put luisa in the same light as woman like virginia rometty and indra nooyi


why is sam not classed in the sam light as lusia ?



Amy childs is a more successful business woman then luisa says it all

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Luisa is a small time business owner whose personality will not impede the every day running of her business operations. There'll be added exposure and interest in her products because of her stint on CBB; existing customers aren't likely to stop buying her products because she was on CBB, and even if they do, she's only gained from being on CBB - people saw what she was like on The Apprentice; they're not going to be put off by Celebrity Big Brother.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Zee

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Luisa is a small time business owner whose personality will not impede the every day running of her business operations. There'll be added exposure and interest in her products because of her stint on CBB; existing customers aren't likely to stop buying her products because she was on CBB, and even if they do, she's only gained from being on CBB - people saw what she was like on The Apprentice; they're not going to be put off by Celebrity Big Brother.

thats nonsensical
a persons personality is a massive part of any business they create and run
her reputation and character has been badly exposed here. this would surely put off all investors

[Z]

Originally Posted by the truth

thats nonsensical
a persons personality is a massive part of any business they create and run
her reputation and character has been badly exposed here. this would surely put off all investors

If you are investing in a business, you are investing in the product being sold and the way the operations are run, you're not making your decision based on whether or not you like the person in charge of it. Obviously it'll be a factor, but the positives of Luisa appearing on CBB far outweight the negatives, and if she manages to do well in the final then I don't think there would even be any negatives. She's not done anything in that house she can't recover from, her time in the house hasn't been defined by any one particular incident.

[joeysteele]

I think it is too late for her to win this series now, however she has turned things around and is for me, easier to watch now.

I think she is likely moving up the list but doubt she has time to be the winner now.I still don't think Jim will win although I would like to see him win.
I believe likely Ollie can take this or unfortunately Sam.

[smudgie]

I think she as been a great housemate, entertaining and makes a good 'bad' girl.
Like a Panto villain.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I think she as been a great housemate, entertaining and makes a good 'bad' girl.
Like a Panto villain.

I fully agree. Extremely entertaining and fortright I want her to win

[Videostar]

The truth speaks the truth.

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I think she is great. She has entertained me, and she stands up for what she believes.. She doesn't always get it right, and is prepared to admit she's wrong when it's appropriate. She shows her intelligence in being able to understand different aspects of every argument, and in the creative way she has fun. She isn't spineless - she stood up to Dappy and told him when he made that sexist comment, and since then they've become friends. She is a bit full-on, but when she has teased people it was in a spirit of fun. She was influenced by Linda, as they all were, and she has admitted that. She isn't vindictive, in my opinion, and I'm not sure that she's more of a bully than anyone else - she hasn't really done much to deserve being called that: she nominated Jim and gave sound reasons, made up that jokey song about Ollie, and apologised while also explaining why she had done that, and how it had appeared to her (and many viewers agreed with her.) She squealed "It's the grim reaper" to Jim as a joke, etc. For her campaign speech, rather than slate someone, she nominated Lee for being a womaniser, albeit in a light-hearted way, and advised other women to stay away.

If I was her mother, I'd be very proud of her. I like others in the house too. There's simply no need to slate a young woman you don't know like this just because she's not your favourite to win.

P.S. Her cake shop is doing fine, and she doesn't need any investment. She went onto The Apprentice hoping to win funding for a 3rd business. Lord Alan Sugar had his top business advisers dig into Luisa's business affairs, check out her claims and look over her business plan for the new business (her 3rd) which she wanted to set up, and they didn't find anything wrong with it. It was a very close thing for winning the apprentice, but in the end, the other girl had bigger plans which would make a lot of money, and Lord Sugar always follows the money. Luisa has already got the funding for her new business from elsewhere, and it's already in operation. Her cake shop is still going strong too - one of the most recent reviews said that it was so popular that they'd had to queue to get served. That's not bad for a single mum in her mid 20s. Most others would be claiming benefit. I wonder what all the critics here had achieved by their mid-20s.

Originally Posted by Jack_

Can y'all get some avatars plz it's confusing

the hate is strong. **** i dont even like Jim but even i would put him up there as one of the best HM. no blinders.

[Nemo123]

I think Jim would have a serious breakdown if she won over him.

[MarcusMel]

You know if this post was said about a forum member it would have been deleted - Its a pity I can't say anything about this thread as forum rules won't let me.

[Glenn.]

Luisa has been the most entertaining for me. Definitely deserves the win.

[optimisticcynic]

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

Durh! The CBB "IQ" test was just a joke. It wasn't a proper IQ test.
If Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test, she'd be in the category of having learning difficulties. If Dappy had scored 6 in an IQ test, he'd probably be in a coma.

Luisa's IQ will be considerably above average, judging by her performance in The Apprentice and CBB.

[Vanessa]

Now that him and Jim have settled their differences i'm warming to her again. I knew she'd be different without Linda.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Durh! The CBB "IQ" test was just a joke. It wasn't a proper IQ test.
If Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test, she'd be in the category of having learning difficulties. If Dappy had scored 6 in an IQ test, he'd probably be in a coma.

Luisa's IQ will be considerably above average, judging by her performance in The Apprentice and CBB.

There are various ways of testing intelligence and although this wasn't a WAIS oe standardised, they probably compared Dappy and Luisa's results to a random poll. Luisa doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent, just savvy and Machiavelian.

As for her assumed intelligence -

Age: 25; Occupation: Retail Entrepreneur.[40] Zissman claimed to have a "brain like Einstein", yet got a C, D, and E at AS level.[41] Zissman broke down after thinking she bungled a pitch in the final, and was then fired by Lord Sugar. Zissman said that during the process she had "learnt to keep her mouth shut".[42] Zissman became embroiled in controversy when it emerged that she did not know how to properly use apostrophes, and appealed to Twitter for advice, ultimately calling her company "Bakers Toolkit".[43] She was educated at Northampton School for Girls.[44]

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

There are various ways of testing intelligence and although this wasn't a WAIS oe standardised, they probably compared Dappy and Luisa's results to a random poll. Luisa doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent, just savvy and Machiavelian.

As for her assumed intelligence -

Age: 25; Occupation: Retail Entrepreneur.[40] Zissman claimed to have a "brain like Einstein", yet got a C, D, and E at AS level.[41] Zissman broke down after thinking she bungled a pitch in the final, and was then fired by Lord Sugar. Zissman said that during the process she had "learnt to keep her mouth shut".[42] Zissman became embroiled in controversy when it emerged that she did not know how to properly use apostrophes, and appealed to Twitter for advice, ultimately calling her company "Bakers Toolkit".[43] She was educated at Northampton School for Girls.[44]

BB's test was NOT an IQ test. It was not comparable to any IQ test. I used to administer IQ tests, so I should know. School exam results do not reflect IQ, business acumen or drive. Knowing how to punctuate is a pointless skill, and certainly not essential for a business person. You do not know what Machiavelian means. And you cannot punctuate either. Maybe you are just jealous.

Yawn. I'm off to bed.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

BB's test was NOT an IQ test, and was not comparable to any IQ test. I used to administer IQ tests, so I should know. School exam results do not reflect IQ, business acumen or drive. Knowing how to punctuate is a pointless skill, and certainly not essential for a business person. You do not know what Machiavelian means. And you cannot punctuate either. Maybe you are just jealous.

Yawn. I'm off to bed.

Wow, you administered tests. That must make you very clever. IQ does involve language, understanding and all the components you claim are irrelevant and I too have undertaken IQ testing. Your comment about my understanding is child-like. What is the basis for your assumption that Luisa is a genius? Other than the fact that she says she is.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

And Dappy got 6 per cent.

At least she has a brain in her head.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

That wasn't an IQ test though.

[Mac1978]

Luisa has become my favourite. She's just really a very funny girl. As much as I didn't initially like her - I couldn't take that away from her. Then, I began to sense (as it seems Jim did too) that a lot of her ice-queen, superwoman, sex-addict crap, is just an act. That's not who she is - it's who she wants to be. And I have no idea why. Cause if she just acted like herself, she'd be much happier, and much more likeable. She definitely could have a future in comedy.

But as it stands, she's very immature, and so will probably go down the usual zelebrity road, surrounding herself with shallow morons who assist her in her superwoman delusion. It's sad, but probably true.

[MTVN]

I'm not even sure Luisa is really that in to her business, she was saying to Liz that she wanted to be a journalist and since the Apprentice has spend most of her time trying to keep herself relevant in gossip mags, lads mags, and stuff like that. She's probably content with her business staying relatively small and easy to manage rather than having high aspirations of becoming a multi millionaire from it living a very intensive life in the corporate world, something she even said she hated on the Apprentice.

[Z]

She managed to get a business off the ground, I'd call that a success. If you're measuring her success against, I dunno, Apple or Gazprom or McDonald's then obviously she's insignificant but it's a real achievement to start up your own business and manage to survive beyond the initial start up phase. Yeah she talks big but she's obviously proud of her achievements and I think she should be, not many people start businesses and manage to keep them going for very long. Being on Big Brother is priceless promotion for someone like Luisa.

Sam Faiers isn't a successful businesswoman, she's a reality TV star, there was no involvement in the business side of things on her behalf as far as I'm aware but correct me if I'm wrong... to my knowledge The Only Way Is Essex is run by a production company, not the people in the show...

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by Zee

She managed to get a business off the ground, I'd call that a success. If you're measuring her success against, I dunno, Apple or Gazprom or McDonald's then obviously she's insignificant but it's a real achievement to start up your own business and manage to survive beyond the initial start up phase. Yeah she talks big but she's obviously proud of her achievements and I think she should be, not many people start businesses and manage to keep them going for very long. Being on Big Brother is priceless promotion for someone like Luisa.

Sam Faiers isn't a successful businesswoman, she's a reality TV star, there was no involvement in the business side of things on her behalf as far as I'm aware but correct me if I'm wrong... to my knowledge The Only Way Is Essex is run by a production company, not the people in the show...

She comes across insignificant against sam let alone a multinational corporations
http://www.minnies-boutique.co.uk/

[CaudleHalbard]

Luisa manages a cake shop doesn't she?

[optimisticcynic]

School exam results are a pretty good indicator of IQ, unless there is a limiting factor unaccounted for such as dyslexia, and at the point of A=Levels, where study is usually focused on topics people enjoy/are interested in, I would expect "Einstein" to get better grades than a C, D and E.