[InOne]

I'm sure we had this same thread about a year ago

[Saph]

they havent watched flavor of love

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by InOne

I'm sure we had this same thread about a year ago

I think so too, just before Comic Relief!

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

I'm sure we had this same thread about a year ago

No this is Today
in the DM.


Dear old Lenny having Yet Again
a moan

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think so too, just before Comic Relief!

Bloody sport relief and now comic relief


I know they're charities and what not but if anyone watched that 'The trouble with aid' documentary on BBC4 a while ago they'd see exactly where the money does or doesn't go.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Drive for an hour outside any big City in the UK and the programmes represent exactly what you will find, a very small percentage of the Black/Asian population.

This. He needs to get out of London more. I'm not saying I have any problem with other ethnicities in TV shows and, in fact, if we're talking London-centric shows (EastEnders especially is ... unrealistic ... ) then yes there probably isn't enough ethnic diversity. But trying to suggest that shows set outside of major cities (or even within most major cities further north) should feature a higher %age of other ethnicities is just... inaccurate?

Like "Token" in South Park. The joke being that they know fine well that it's unlikely that there would be a black family in a small Colorado mountain town, but they "have to" include one for the sake of diversity.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by InOne

I'm sure we had this same thread about a year ago

how did that one end? save us the suspense.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Saph

they havent watched flavor of love

[InOne]

Originally Posted by lostalex

how did that one end? save us the suspense.

Tragically like most threads on here

[Jarrod]

We're doing this in Sociology at the moment like how there is a lack of Ethnic Minority in TV in Britain. He's right though, if you look at soap operas for example - the amount of Ethnic Minority people that appear in Coronation Street, there's hardly any for a soap that's supposed to be set in a very multi-cultural area.

[MTVN]

Corrie's not set in anywhere near as multicultural an area as Eastenders is tbf

[lostalex]

so basically, there's a lot of white people in Britain, get over it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so basically, there's a lot of white people in Britain, get over it.

Exactly.

It's like going to Africa and whinging about the lack of white people. People are far too touchy.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Honestly if it means less Lenny Henry on TV I'm all for ethnic cleansing.

[Vicky.]

Is it not worse, to cast someone solely because they are a minority? Or to specifically write in parts that wouldn't be there otherwise just to get the token minority on the show? Really...I think thats just as bad

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is it not worse, to cast someone solely because they are a minority? Or to specifically write in parts that wouldn't be there otherwise just to get the token minority on the show? Really...I think thats just as bad

Exactly. Positive discrimination they call it.

[Jarrod]

I'm just quoting the OCR textbook here don't shoot me.

[Z]

Awkwardly slotting in ethnic minorities into programs where they really don't belong is dumb in my opinion. Adding in a character whose origins are for example from the Indian subcontinent into a period drama set in, I dunno, Britain in the 1700s, would be unrealistic because while there may well have been some people from that part of the world living in Britain at that time, that's not what people think of when they think of that period of time in Britain. I agree that programs set in London should be representative of what London is actually like and not just having token Asian families or Afro-Caribbean families just to pacify people. Have multicultural families and relationships and storylines that don't revolve around their multicultural-ness. Shoehorning it in is phony and not true to life. So while I can see his point and to some extent agree with him, I think what he's saying only applies to certain programs. When I lived in Germany I was friends with a white girl from the Scottish borders and a black girl from London. The white girl said that she'd never actually met a black person until she went to university and had never been friends with anyone who wasn't white until she'd met the black girl from London. Of course she hasn't! She lives in a rural part of the country that isn't very likely to have any kind of immigration.

[the truth]

theyre too upper class too dominated by the oxbridge posh boys....I dont find these posh boys like stephen fry remotely funny...in fact his trips around america found him to be very narrow minded little englander mocking the yanks at every turn and playing to the english audience....i prefer working class funny men and women who relate to the man on the street, who have real life experiences which we can all relate too....I loved dave allen, jasper carrott, billy connolly, lee evans, jack dee, dylan moran, then the yanks and jewish comics take over....as for lenny henry hes just peeved because hes not particularly funny

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

We're doing this in Sociology at the moment like how there is a lack of Ethnic Minority in TV in Britain. He's right though, if you look at soap operas for example - the amount of Ethnic Minority people that appear in Coronation Street, there's hardly any for a soap that's supposed to be set in a very multi-cultural area.

what about regional accents? how many irish in eastenders, how many welsh in coronation street...what about disabled? how many in any of these daily shows? theyre masisvely under represented way way way way way way way way moreso than black people or anyone else

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

what about regional accents? how many irish in eastenders, how many welsh in coronation street...what about disabled? how many in any of these daily shows? theyre masisvely under represented way way way way way way way way moreso than black people or anyone else

That's like saying "where's all the german accents?".

Put a German show on. If you want Welsh accents then watch welsh TV.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That's like saying "where's all the german accents?".

Put a German show on. If you want Welsh accents then watch welsh TV.

no its not. we all belong to the same country. your point is utter nonsense

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

no its not. we all belong to the same country. your point is utter nonsense

I think you'll find Wales and England are separate countries.

What I'm saying is that if you have a show set in Manchester then you're not going to get a big "representation" of Welsh or Irish accents.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I think you'll find Wales and England are separate countries.

What I'm saying is that if you have a show set in Manchester then you're not going to get a big "representation" of Welsh or Irish accents.

theres millions in london too lol
they and the disabled and even the millions of saffers, aussies, kiwis, etc etc etc are way under represented in these tedious soaps.

[MTVN]

Corrie has got a girl in a wheelchair