[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Well she has people that like her in there so the 45 minute highlights must be doing something wrong with their editing on that front.

But those that like her seem to be almost as bad as her

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

But those that like her seem to be almost as bad as her

Birds of a feather ,flock together,Flaming

[Bluerang1]

I don't support Helen's past in any way but your last paragraph is something I consider but should consider even more. Rooney is just as much to blame.

Helen is a great housemate though. Not the best person maybe but brilliant housemate which is all that counts.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf Helen was always gonna hurt herself with people last night in particular, I do think though that the people wanting her pass revoked pretending that she's not entertaining (because let's face it not many of the others are) and attacking her for any argument even though she can have some valid points in them (like Kimberly and Winston going into that shower together they definitely wanted some attention in the house and from the public) but people will never admit to that because all they seem to think about is that Helen used to be a Prostitute because a lot of people don't even mention the Wayne Rooney affair.

[Niamh.]

Oh and I'd like to add, the only reason Helen actually got in Big Brother is because of what she's known for so it served her well in that regard but now we're not allowed talk about that?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh and I'd like to add, the only reason Helen actually got in Big Brother is because of what she's known for so it served her well in that regard but now we're not allowed talk about that?

Tbf I think people should be allowed to talk about what they want, but some people didn't even give her a chance on here because of what she used to do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Tbf I think people should be allowed to talk about what they want, but some people didn't even give her a chance on here because of what she used to do.

People liked her on the first night I think, it didn't take her very long to show what she was really like though tbf, day 2 when the new HMs came in was when she started her tirade against Jale

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah a lot of people liked Helen when she came across nice and dull, it's the BB public written all over isn't it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Yeah a lot of people liked Helen when she came across nice and dull, it's the BB public written all over isn't it?

She wasn't dull the first night Are you saying that the only way to not be dull is by buying rude and argumentative?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She wasn't dull the first night Are you saying that the only way to not be dull is by buying rude and argumentative?

No but come on she didn't do that much on the first night and that's when she was at her most popular.

I can't with the public this year, a Housemate becomes entertaining or does something interesting and they get abuse, how would people handle BB6 if it was on air today? Is it too many personalities for people?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She wasn't dull the first night Are you saying that the only way to not be dull is by buying rude and argumentative?

I thought she came across very dull and boring on the first night. I think I even made a comment saying there was nothing to her.

How wrong I was lol.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Yeah a lot of people liked Helen when she came across nice and dull, it's the BB public written all over isn't it?

Not really. They just didn't have anything against her.

[armand.kay]

I don't dislike her but I bring up her past because:
1) she takes a moral high ground and has gotten on kim's back about a shower so I use it to highlight her hypocrisy.
2) shes made a huge deal about it by selling her story and in her VT instead of talking about her personality she spoke about Rooney so she obviously doesn't want to move past it.

[Me. I Am Salman]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...38&postcount=1

stop talking about her past.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...38&postcount=1

stop talking about her past.

She willingly put herself on TV and is now discussing her past.

It's fair game for viewer's to discuss.

If she wants to move on then she should go home.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She willingly put herself on TV and is now discussing her past.

It's fair game for viewer's to discuss.

If she wants to move on then she should go home.

[Josy]

Salman I had to edit the thread title, you can change it if you like but don't put those 3 words together with the / in between without any spaces.

It's been stretching the forum sidebar all day.

[Pete.]

What even is entertainment

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

What even is entertainment

its an unexplained enigma

[GiRTh]

I think her past is directly relevant to the person we see in the house.

[Ellen]

Not interested in her past, she did what she did for her own reasons. She has moved on. I dont think she is a bad person in general just sometimes lets her mouth run away with her without thinking which shows the negative side of her.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

Helen was a prostitute, yes. But she had her reasons. It was most likely a last resort for money and we are definitely not in a position to judge. I would bet my life that the majority of people hating on Hel would say the exact same thing if it didn't concern her. So why are people applying a different set of standards to her and spewing all this venom? Surely that's bit hypocritical?

To those who aren't being hypocrites and would apply the same standards to all prostitutes, Helen's profession is in the past and she's no longer selling herself. Can a person not regret their actions and move on in their lives? Are you really saying she can never have any moral authority ever again because of something she did at one point of her life? That's incredibly heartless. How many mistakes have you exactly made? What if I never let you forget that one time you did something you so badly wish never happened? Would you have any of it? No. So in that sense you're just as guilty of hypocrisy too. In the end of the day, Helen was just offering constructive advice based on her own experience. She doesn't want Kimberley to commit the same mistakes she did and suffer the same kind of backlash, which is totally understandable. Surely Helen bashers really need to start looking for the good in people instead of solely dwelling on the bad.

I'm not done even there, there's a hint of misogyny with all this hate too. Wayne Rooney was simply another client, it was HIS decision to hire out Helen for her services and it shouldn't be her concern whether he's married or not. In the end of the day it was Wayne who deceived the ones he was close to, not Helen. But typical of the woman getting all the blame eh? How many threads were made in the World Cup section calling Rooney a homewrecker before he scored that goal yesterday? None. Was there ever any more proof not needed? Not forgetting to mention exactly how disgustingly sexist the words 'slag' and '*****' are that people seem to be bandying about on the site. Truly sickening to see this kind of hate on here.

So please, to those who keep bringing up Helen's personal life. Just think about the kind of things you are saying.

..I have been quite conflicted about this myself and maybe it didn’t seem relevant to me also because I don’t tend to read anything we might be told about housemates before BB starts if any of them are known to the public and I actually didn’t know who Helen was until I saw posts referring to what she did for a living after BB started...anyway the thing that’s conflicted me quite a bit is the ‘kiss and tell’ part of it rather than what she did because you’re right he was the one who betrayed but to me I would think that it being made public would maybe be just as hurtful and damaging to Colleen than the actual ‘act’....so she was an equal part from view..?..I’ve just watched the vid of her interview on This Morning though and it’s the first time I’ve seen it and listening to her, I think it’s something that we’ve all seen so many times with the ‘gutter media’.....’we’re going to print it anyway and you won’t have any say in the light we portray you so you might as well talk to us and make some money for your son and yourself..’...and she’s a single mother who has obviously had bad times/money worries etc and a life that has led her to what she did for a living so I think that for me, it doesn’t really surprise me that she did ’break the code’ for this and did what she’s been forced to do and that’s look out for herself..?...I think the real ‘low’ here is the gutter press who are the ones that are desperate to get these stories and manipulate people to do that ..they’re the ones that I would call disgusting and it really does make me see Helen in a different way...anyway I am still judging her from her time in the house and I still think she’s not showing her character very well atm and am not exactly a fan but maybe we'll see a ‘softer’ side as time goes on...although you probably just want the drama Salman.....

[Me. I Am Salman]

there are a lot of valid points there

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

there are a lot of valid points there

That you didn't read

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

That you didn't read

erm excuse me yes i did