[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I don't even get the reference of "whatever Sylvester Stallone" but just laughed at the randomness of it. Anyone know what the reference is or was he confusing Stallone with some other actor?

I'm guessing because she jumped off the sofa, erupted and was bouncing around from one person to another as though spoiling for a fight.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by Josy

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

Well, I didn't expect anything else from you Josy

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I don't even get the reference of "whatever Sylvester Stallone" but just laughed at the randomness of it. Anyone know what the reference is or was he confusing Stallone with some other actor?

Same

Winston is so random and stupid but I really like the guy.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Well, I didn't expect anything else from you Josy

Good for you.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Translation: Why do Winston, Marlon and Ash not act the same way as Toya and scream in people's faces?

Not at all. They are unbelievably boring, I was a fan of Hazel for example and she didn't scream in people's faces,nor did most of my other favourites like Imogen, Derek etc.

I like fun housemates as well as bitchy ones and they aren't

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

How can you know that when you have seen the same as the rest of us?

That clip it looks like the argument got so bad because she told everyone to calm the f down, she even says at the end in reply to someone saying they never done anything 'that could be true'

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'm guessing because she jumped off the sofa, erupted and was bouncing around from one person to another as though spoiling for a fight.

That makes sense. At first I thought he said it in response to what she said, but it was actually how she was acting. Be funny if some other housemate starting doing Mickey impressions or Mr T

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

That doesn't make her right. That makes her just as bad.

The first video shows the catalyst of the argument being resolved in 5 seconds by Helen confirming what was said.

Then the shouting continued and they had an argument about the argument.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Jords

Same

Winston is so random and stupid but I really like the guy.

Funniest part of the whole series for me was the living in the wild, eating dead birds story he made up.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Josy

How can you know that when you have seen the same as the rest of us?

That clip it looks like the argument got so bad because she told everyone to calm the f down, she even says at the end in reply to someone saying they never done anything 'that could be true'

That clip was all the later actions... if they didn't make such a fuss over her using a power she didn't ask for there wouldn't have been an argument

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.

This.

It's sort of made me understand the annoyance at Chris being targeted for using the power last week. Pathetic actually, The Bores must go.

[Shaun]

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'll wait until the highlights since we are only aware of half of this argument.

Don't want to be accused of judging on a 2 minute video or anything.

Can you imagine if we had to make vital character assessments on these people from heavily edited footage??

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

Can you imagine if we had to make vital character assessments on these people from heavily edited footage??

Absolutely unthinkable Robert.

Just the thought is giving me the willies.

[Achilles]

Before the argument, Toya and Ash were both strong members of team bitch aka cool kids gang. There are unspoken rules you follow when part of a bitch gang. You don't go against other members of the bitch gang is one of those rules. So from the perspective of Ash, he is entitled to be pissed off at Toya, because she went against her fellow bitch gang members. Both Toya and Ash are bitches, they were members of the bitch gang. Then they have a big bust up. The root cause of the bust up is the fact that they are both bitchy people. It is a clash between 2 strong members of the pack, fighting for superiority over the other. If Ash and Toya do not kiss and make up, one of them will have to leave the cool kids gang and form their own gang.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Absolutely unthinkable Robert.

Just the thought is giving me the willies.

Do not concern yourself dear Marshamus, you know how you get when overexcited.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

Do not concern yourself dear Marshamus, you know how you get when overexcited.

You promised we wouldn't speak of that.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You promised we wouldn't speak of that.

I'm sorry. Sometimes I need to release.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

Toya's complete over reaction and screaming at everyone like a lunatic loses her the argument even if she did have any valid points in the first place.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

They got pissy, because Toya went all Mugabe dictatorship on them when they simply asked why they were picked

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

They got pissy, because Toya went all Mugabe dictatorship on them when they simply asked why they were picked

[Achilles]

Toya: I want you to tell me what to do.
Ash: You want ME to tell you what to do?
Toya: Yes, you are my friend. We are the cool kids, not them. You should have told me not to make a decision that would mean Kimberley escapes the public vote.
Ash: I DID!
Toya: But you did not persuade me Ash, you did not persuade me!

[Loukas]

Toya's