[ozzyshaggah]

Helen of course

jealousy is a curse and Ashleigh is cursed

[JeanP!]

Helen.

[Patricia4]

Ashleigh

[joe199998293]

I honestly don't understand how any of you can like that evil swine Ashleigh?

[Verbal]

No contest, the heart and soul of the show and the only one that has had me rolling with laughter on more than one occasion.

Queen Helen

[Rob4]

Helen, she is infuriating at times but can also be very funny.

[GypsyGoth]

During the rivalry I prefer Helen, Ashleigh just sits in other rooms and bitches about Helen, saying how she's gonna do that and that, and ends up not doing anything.

Outside of the rivalry, I prefer Ashleigh at the moment, I don't want her to go this week, but I also think it's a shame that the only way for her to be safe is for Jale to go.

Anyway so far in the series overall, I like Helen more.

[HBB1508]

Ashleigh by a small margin.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

What a difficult choice - Would I choose an ex-prostitute who boasted all over the tabloids about engaging in a threesome for cash with the husband of a pregnant woman, who bullies both males and females, who is vulgar and crude with a constant stream of vitriolic filth spewing from her mouth and yet who came from a privileged middle class home - the daughter of a University Lecturer.

Or would i choose an eighteen year old who just finished her A Levels, won Miss Derry, runs Confidence Building classes voluntarily for young women as well as other charity work and yet who was raised during the tail end of the Troubles in a working class council estate in L/Derry who has bullied NO ONE in the house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ozzyshaggah

Helen of course

jealousy is a curse and Ashleigh is cursed

Ashleigh is jealous of Helen?

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

What a difficult choice - Would I choose an ex-prostitute who boasted all over the tabloids about engaging in a threesome for cash with the husband of a pregnant woman, who bullies both males and females, who is vulgar and crude with a constant stream of vitriolic filth spewing from her mouth and yet who came from a privileged middle class home - the daughter of a University Lecturer.

Or would i choose an eighteen year old who just finished her A Levels, won Miss Derry, runs Confidence Building classes voluntarily for young women as well as other charity work and yet who was raised during the tail end of the Troubles in a working class council estate in L/Derry who has bullied NO ONE in the house.

Sssshhh! Don't try logic and reason, that never works!

Best method around here is to try and ignore everything Helen has said and done, then stick Ashleigh head on the block for talking to her friend about who she dislikes...

*This post was brought to you by the wooden spoon stirrers club and was sponsored by the European baiters association

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

What a difficult choice - Would I choose an ex-prostitute who boasted all over the tabloids about engaging in a threesome for cash with the husband of a pregnant woman, who bullies both males and females, who is vulgar and crude with a constant stream of vitriolic filth spewing from her mouth and yet who came from a privileged middle class home - the daughter of a University Lecturer.

Or would i choose an eighteen year old who just finished her A Levels, won Miss Derry, runs Confidence Building classes voluntarily for young women as well as other charity work and yet who was raised during the tail end of the Troubles in a working class council estate in L/Derry who has bullied NO ONE in the house.

On a serious note...

You make a great argument. These are real people, they are in the house what they are on the outside.

Helen is a loud mouth, she likes to pick on people, she goes after the weak and side steps arguments with people on an "equal" footing. She comes from a good home, but acts like she was dragged up on the streets.

Ashleigh is a polite young woman, who seems spend most of her time avoiding the people she doesn't like. She is vocal on her opinions, but never causes problems for the other HM's.

Two comments that stand out to me. The first was when Helen was in the Morgue she noticed that everyone was having fun in the VT, she said that it never happens when she is around. The second was when Christopher and Winston were in the task room reading the "twits". He said that Ashleigh and Danielle do spend a lot of time talking together and that no one had any idea what they were saying.

The point is that Ashleigh isn't effecting anyone, she isn't causing any discomfort. Yet take Helen away and everyone relaxes and has fun.

Its a small but important point.

[joe199998293]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

What a difficult choice - Would I choose an ex-prostitute who boasted all over the tabloids about engaging in a threesome for cash with the husband of a pregnant woman, who bullies both males and females, who is vulgar and crude with a constant stream of vitriolic filth spewing from her mouth and yet who came from a privileged middle class home - the daughter of a University Lecturer.

Or would i choose an eighteen year old who just finished her A Levels, won Miss Derry, runs Confidence Building classes voluntarily for young women as well as other charity work and yet who was raised during the tail end of the Troubles in a working class council estate in L/Derry who has bullied NO ONE in the house.