[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

I agree and disagree with parts. Helen was the main focus for the first few weeks because she was loud and getting into everyone's faces. That's not a contribution, imo. Everyone else got drowned out because of this. We don't know what was going on with Ashleigh and her friends in there because we weren't shown it. From stuff that's been hinted at and other people's behaviour, it wasn't just Ashleigh's fault that people drifted apart. We don't know if Ashleigh has said she misses Danielle, she did say she felt like a weight had been lifted and I always got the feeling that Danielle dragged her down. I also think that her comment to Chris 'you always made me happier' was meant as 'you make me happy' rather than 'happier than Danielle'. I also like that she doesn't get involved with the childish "fun" that the others get up to in the house. I don't find that fun in real life and I don't find it fun to watch on the show.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Ashleigh did absolutely nothing for the first two weeks, bitched constantly with Toya and Danielle for the next three week, showed no loyalty to Danielle once she was evicted when she told Chris she got on better with him than Danielle and she hasn't even said she misses her. She was all over the new housemates when they evicted her friend. She has shown no loyalty whatsoever and has acted like an old woman during any of the fun events up to now.

She is not worthy of the title of power housemate but she seems to have the general public under her spell. At this stage despite all the vile things Helen has said and done I MUCH PREFER Helen to Ashleigh

We see 6% of what happens per day. Big Brother decides what that 6% will be.
Last night's show was ~70% Steven ~25% Mark 5% rest of the housemates.

Why didn't they show Ashleigh winning her task against Mark?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Chris has contributed more IMO.

He got Pauline up and out of the house that alone deserves a win but other than that his views on the goings on in the house and his opinions on the other housemates are pretty spot on with the majority of the publics.

I do not think Chris has contributed more at all

[joeysteele]

Well being a power housemate has only really worked for Chris so far, Pauline, Toya and Matthew all got dumped out of the series.

Danielle fell at the hands of power housemates last week so this may be temporary 'dark' blessing for Ashleigh once next week comes around,depending on what she does with the power this week.

For instance, were she to really go for Ash this week,(which I cannot see her resisting to do so myself,since she always targets him), then were he to leave the house, I can see a real storm ahead for her next week from most of the others.

However if she used it wisely and fairly,she could gain some ground then,I cannot see her doing that however.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

I do not think Chris has contributed more at all

Oh well I disagree and posted why I thought what I did.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well being a power housemate has only really worked for Chris so far, Pauline, Toya and Matthew all got dumped out of the series.

Danielle fell at the hands of power housemates last week so this may be temporary 'dark' blessing for Ashleigh once next week comes around,depending on what she does with the power this week.

For instance, were she to really go for Ash this week,(which I cannot see her resisting to do so myself,since she always targets him), then were he to leave the house, I can see a real storm ahead for her next week from most of the others.

However if she used it wisely and fairly,she could gain some gorund then,I cannot see her doing that however.

She might now she has Chris helping her

[Johnnyuk123]

All they need to do is make sure Steven is up. If BB then put any of the power housemates up ( like they did with Toya and Matthew) they are still safe as Stevens a gonner if up.

[Achilles]

All this talk of who has contributed more is utter BS because we don't have LIVE FEED.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Chris has contributed more IMO.

He got Pauline up and out of the house that alone deserves a win but other than that his views on the goings on in the house and his opinions on the other housemates are pretty spot on with the majority of the publics.

Definitely not.

Doing what the public wants for like one week does not equal contribution to the series. He's basically kissing arse to the public and trying to get them on his side instead of letting his layers go and being himself. He's also very two-faced.

The thing is, I still like him more than most of the other HMs this year. That's how bad this cast is

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She might now she has Chris helping her

Oh has she, I didn't know that.
Well you are likely right there Niamh.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Achilles

All this talk of who has contributed more is utter BS because we don't have LIVE FEED.

That's why we're basing it off the highlights.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh has she, I didn't know that.
Well you are likely right there Niamh.

Oh I hope I didn't spoil it for you Joey!

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Achilles

All this talk of who has contributed more is utter BS because we don't have LIVE FEED.

We comment on what we do see, that's always been the way of it.

Originally Posted by Hayden

Definitely not.

Doing what the public wants for like one week does not equal contribution to the series. He's basically kissing arse to the public and trying to get them on his side instead of letting his layers go and being himself. He's also very two-faced.

The thing is, I still like him more than most of the other HMs this year. That's how bad this cast is

Yeah well I disagree with your opinion and think he has contributed a lot to the show, Pauline being up and out thanks to him being only one of the reasons I previously mentioned.

[Johnnyuk123]

She's gonna slay the cheap lay.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I hope I didn't spoil it for you Joey!

No, I just saw the thread where this appears to have happened.

I am glad Chris is involved again.

[mrflibble]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

That's why we're basing it off the highlights.

I tend to read between the lines a lot as well. 'If they showed this, what didn't they show?'. But yes, without live feed it's really difficult to know. I also kind of look at it from whether I find what they're showing genuine or manipulative. If I feel they're being manipulative, I'll start feeling the opposite of what they want me to feel (eg, with the "Steven and Mark show", I like them less and less the more they show). Each episode can be 90% Steven, but I'll still feel like he's contributing nothing overall (except for maybe 'Open it').

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No, I just saw the thread where this appears to have happened.

I am glad Chris is involved again.

Yeah me too, he'll help Ashleigh make the right choices I think, he's very clever that one

[Achilles]

Big Brother Old School >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Bit on the Side

[londonlass55]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Awful result in my view, she had enough time as a power housemate when she commanded the group when all the female housemates had the power.
Too much again too soon.

I agree she is a nasty little girl with nasty ideas Helen is by far the better person

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Ashleigh did absolutely nothing for the first two weeks, bitched constantly with Toya and Danielle for the next three week, showed no loyalty to Danielle once she was evicted when she told Chris she got on better with him than Danielle and she hasn't even said she misses her. She was all over the new housemates when they evicted her friend. She has shown no loyalty whatsoever and has acted like an old woman during any of the fun events up to now.

She is not worthy of the title of power housemate but she seems to have the general public under her spell. At this stage despite all the vile things Helen has said and done I MUCH PREFER Helen to Ashleigh

I agree 100%

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I know,sadly.

You spelled delightfully wrong.

[Apenguin]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Ashleigh did absolutely nothing for the first two weeks, bitched constantly with Toya and Danielle for the next three week, showed no loyalty to Danielle once she was evicted when she told Chris she got on better with him than Danielle and she hasn't even said she misses her. She was all over the new housemates when they evicted her friend. She has shown no loyalty whatsoever and has acted like an old woman during any of the fun events up to now.

She is not worthy of the title of power housemate but she seems to have the general public under her spell. At this stage despite all the vile things Helen has said and done I MUCH PREFER Helen to Ashleigh

This being picked for PHM is nothing more than a poisoned chalice, this alliance will be revealed unlike when Chris was PHM alone, This isn't going to end well for any of the Aliance!
I also prefer helen to ashleigh, Helen went & comforted Danielle yet her friend didn't bother!
Helen is gaining support rather than losing support & that is the difference!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Spoon

You spelled delightfully wrong.

I never have used the word delightfully??

[Marsh.]

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by londonlass55

I agree she is a nasty little girl with nasty ideas Helen is by far the better person

@ Helen the better person.

Ask Coleen Rooney and all the other wives.