[abhorson]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

The hero part is a joke yes, but away from Helen and Ashleigh who else would you say is more entertaining than Ash that's left in the house?

Everyone to be honest. Even Zoe.

[BigSister]

I agree apart from being friends with Helen (Although like his mum im disappointed in that ) and a few laddish comments start of the BB I don't have a problem with Ash really. Just the Helen connection really...

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Yet I'm seeing alot of hate for him in recent topics, like him not arguing against being saved!? Wth, with 2 surprise outcomes (Matthew and Jale) why on Earth should he have to sit there against Steven when the household have no idea what's going to happen, when he's been up every single week more or less. Enough with the Ash hate, if he wasn't close to Helen he'd have none of this, and it's his choice who he is friends (or more) with.

He has also got along with everyone in the house and the only person he has argued with was Toya and she apologised to him before she left and they made up

I think you are right about the Helen thing, but even that shows him in a good light, as people were telling him, whenever he was up (and lets remind ourselves, he was only ever put up by Trash/Toya/Danielle/Chris/Christopher (ie. the sad crowd) to get at Helen, that Helen was the reason he was maybe gonna go

Did he stay away from her in order to avoid eviction ? NO

He stood by his own principles, even in the face of eviction, that says a lot about his character

Even Trash/Chris & Turncoat Mark said they liked him a lot, so I think the only reason Trash fans hate him is he is not doing what they want, as in having a go at *******igh/Chris.

He a lovely guy and I would like him to win!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

He asked Zoe and Pav if they were ok with that and they both said YES

As for being a gentleman, he has been the perfect gent all the way through and is on course for a win here!!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

Least ash saved himself in a fair way

it was actually Steven that suggested him, Ash would never have said his own name!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Crocodile Tears

I think most people feel they saw the *real* Ash ["maggot/slut-buckets/tear-u-apart" Ash] in the first couple of weeks.
Veiwers probably feel he's been masking his nastiness since he heard the boos.

Only *******igh fans would think that

Sour grapes leave a nasty taste in the mouth!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

He asked Zoe and Pav if they were ok with that and they both said YES

As for being a gentleman, he has been the perfect gent all the way through and is on course for a win here!!

Well they are hardly going to say NO are they???

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

They are all in to win,why would anyone be a gentleman and put himself in the firing line,and hand it to a newbie aswell?!!!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Everyone to be honest. Even Zoe.

Ok when you say people like Winston and Zoe are more entertaining than Ash that's when I think your dislike of him may have gone too far.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Only *******igh fans would think that

Sour grapes leave a nasty taste in the mouth!

Who's trasleigh??....there is no one in the house called *******IGH.

[Natalie.]

No he isn't, I like Ash

[tanussa]

it may look as though ash didnt argue against him being saved, but the clip has clearly been edited at least twice, so who knows what BB has axed, plus he has been up so many times he was the one most worthy of be saved, esp. as steven stressed he really wasnt bothered, prob. wants to get out to kim. and please stop dwelling on the maggot days, he has said so very little that could be deemed as offensive compared to some of the other HMs

[Brother Leon]

People see what they want to see. He looked embarrassed to take the save and even asked Zoe if she was sure however many times. What was he meant to say "Nah, no thanks BB...we don't want it" or "Nah, I'm a guy. I cant take it". No one would do that

[Livia]

He's really good looking.

That really is all.

He's the type you'd keep for one glorious evening then suggest he calls himself a cab.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

People see what they want to see. He looked embarrassed to take the save and even asked Zoe if she was sure however many times. What was he meant to say "Nah, no thanks BB...we don't want it" or "Nah, I'm a guy. I cant take it". No one would do that

no one is moaning ash saved himself because it was a group discussion

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Livia

He's really good looking.

That really is all.

He's the type you'd keep for one glorious evening then suggest he calls himself a cab.

[poppsywoppsy]

He is a slob, looking like a slob most of the time, dirty, sweaty, unshaven and gross.

Swinging along on Helens manipulation of her man coven and skirt tails, he has done little in the tasks, done little in the house and moans along with Helen terminally.

If I was his Mum, I would be concerned Helens ex boyfriend is really her ex and not just for the programme.

Look him up.

[joeysteele]

I have come to really like Ash, I don't get the dislike of him really.

People must like who they can like obviously but his choice of friends shouldn't be an issue.
I have friends who cannot stand some of my other friends but because I am friends with a mix of people then that shouldn't reflect on me at all.

At least Ash's friendship with Helen is better to watch and more real than the farce between Steven and Kimberley likely.
Ash gets into the tasks and is also interesting to listen to when he gets going chatting.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Futaba

Oh well. I still don't like him.

The housemates keep putting him up so he ain't popular in the house too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The thing that turns me off is the self-entitlement, reminding everyone constantly that he's been nominated so many times and just wants a break (when one of those weeks involved everyone being up and this week he was just saved - he hasn't been properly nominated since Week 4.) Christopher has been nominated more times than him and has taken it extremely well and doesn't insist upon himself whatsoever. That's much more admirable and likable.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

If he held Chris's morals.

Nice joke... Chris is a total slime, slagging Steven off (whom I hate fyi but still) then saying how 'its not personal we really like you' and then saying how hard it was to nom Ash, when he relished it (more so than even Ashleigh) his words (as near as damn it)... 'people in here who feel their protected need to be shook up' yet there he is getting all choked and emotional and pleading to have Ash saved when it was blatantly obvious him and the witch would pick Ash.

I mean I dont even blame them for picking him (he is best friends with their least fave HM) but have the stones to stand by your decision, no as usual weaselly Chris ass licked his way out of trouble... then put on an oscar performance in the DR to garner sympathy

[Rageofangels]

I think as his a good housemate, streets ahead of Steven, Pav, Zoe, mark,Christopher and Helen.n

[Kazanne]

I like Ash too,but I can see why some people are jealous of him

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

Helen is quite decent person zi think. She got off to a bad start, yes, but stress and emotions are strong things to deal with. She has sorted few things now and really stepped up tonight, so good on her. I find her rather truthful myself

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Forgetmenot

Helen is quite decent person zi think. She got off to a bad start, yes, but stress and emotions are strong things to deal with. She has sorted few things now and really stepped up tonight, so good on her. I find her rather truthful myself

Good observation , I agree with what you say above. She is also one of the more truthful in there overall too.