[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by delta

Stand up and take a bow, without you this years show would have been banal.



You were given the pass to the final by BB for a reason, you were the show and the producers new it and boy have you delivered



Stand up this years WINNER.



HELEN.

My favourite houseamate. She's fab!

[RockBottom]

Originally Posted by delta

Stand up and take a bow, without you this years show would have been banal.



You were given the pass to the final by BB for a reason, you were the show and the producers new it and boy have you delivered



Stand up this years WINNER.



HELEN.

[delta]

Helen was given a pass to the final because that was the deal for her going in, come on she would have been out before her backside had touched the BB couch.


The protected one.


You are also going to tell me that it was coincidental that Mark, owing £1440 and the baliffs threatening to go into the BB house to slap him with a court notice ( would be nice if they had just gone in and slapped him [joke] ) that it wasn't pre-arranged that he would get some brass to make that problem go away.

Funny isn't it, we haven't heard a squeak from them since he won the money!!!!

[CaudleHalbard]

I know a chap whose father was a chartered surveyor, with offices in the City of London, and whose mother speaks like the Queen.

He is one of the chavviest characters I have ever had the misfortune to meet.

Genetics are a funny thing!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by delta

Helen was given a pass to the final because that was the deal for her going in, come on she would have been out before her backside had touched the BB couch.


The protected one.


You are also going to tell me that it was coincidental that Mark, owing £1440 and the baliffs threatening to go into the BB house to slap him with a court notice ( would be nice if they had just gone in and slapped him [joke] ) that it wasn't pre-arranged that he would get some brass to make that problem go away.

Funny isn't it, we haven't heard a squeak from them since he won the money!!!!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by delta

Codswallop.

If that was the case then more power to her if the rest are supposedly that weak they shouldn't be in there.

They fully open up alright, not a problem with the diary room or the snidey comments up in their ivory tower and I thought most Ashleigh lovers said she could give as good as she gets?

And don't tell me the Nigerian girl ( sorry, still cannot remember her name) wasn't an evil little minx.


Still waiting for an answer as to why she was given the pass to the final.


If BB wanted her out they would have manufactured it by now, you know deep down the snidey crew are as dull as ditch water and the show would crumble with out the 'cool gang' and especially Helen.

yeah lets celebrate her slackness!!

[delta]

Originally Posted by MrWong

.

No she didn't. Her fathers a university lecturer and her mothers a primary school teacher. One brothers a nurse and the other is at university.



Helen was given a pass to the final because Pauline's an awful judge of character.

She wasn't brought up in the South, she's from Bolton and that's the town she has lived in all of her life. The choices you make are easier if you are away from temptation and I guess these Northern Mill towns are hot bed of distractions. She obviously easily influenced and head strong but also has a desire to make money and be successful, whether she has gone about it in the right way is open to debate but who are we to judge.

From what we have seen on this years BB she has been the one that has stood in the trenches and told it how it is, if the rest don't like it well they need to grow a pair.

[delta]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yeah lets celebrate her slackness!!

I have always took a dim view from posters that need to support their arguments with avatars and smiley's etc.


Let the mainstay of your post stand or fall by the strength of it's content.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Have any of the evicted housemates described Helen as a bully?

Maybe they have, but I just can't recall it.

No one has used the word bully but many have said how Helens mood affects the whole house...

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by delta

Let the mainstay of your post stand or fall by the strength of it's content.

Oh don't be such a misery.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by delta

I have always took a dim view from posters that need to support their arguments with avatars and smiley's etc.


Let the mainstay of your post stand or fall by the strength of it's content.

you seem to take a dim view on a lot of things, especially your view on Helen.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by delta

Now you are being silly, why is she 'plain evil'?


Just had a hard Northern upbringing and probably had a lot of 5h!t thrown her way, okay you could argue that you make choices in life and she's probably chosen the wrong ones on numerous occasions.


But she is where she is and looks to have come on a journey and how can you argue she's not real, what you see is what you get, and I am not sure where you are from but there are probably more woman like that in this country than the likes of Ashleigh. I am not really knocking Ashleigh, but to get anything from the snidey group there has to be action first, they don't create the action or the interest they just react to it, usually by making snide comments, being judgmental. They are never the instigators of anything of interest that happens in the house, in short if the catalysts were removed that house would be inert. Don't give me the old cliche they would come out of themselves and you would see a whole different house and a different side to these housemates, nonsense, all you would get is a sterile program.

All of the Helen haters nobody has stepped forward and come up with a reasonable explanation as to why Helen was given the pass to the final. The reason why is because you know that Big Brother gave her it as they knew that she would be the mainstay of the show, now, as I have said before, like or hate her, she has kept her end of the bargain in spades full. If the dullards of this world feel over shadowed by such personalities then they shouldn't put themselves forward to be on such a show.

Her reward should be her being made this years WINNER, I dont' see it happening but it would be nice if this procession of a show started to show some real balls and stop handing it to the safe, boring, snidey dullards of this world, the critics. The Simon Cowells of this world, great critiquing but can't sing, act, dance or do fcuk all else, just sit there and criticise.

I was bought up on a council estate, my mum committed suicide when I was 16, my dad was an abusive alcoholic, he still is an alcoholic, my step mum is the spawn of Satan, I've had to deal with mental/emotional/physical abuse as I grew up, I left home at 17 after my dad physically attacked me, I then learnt with the help of my husband to stand on my own two feet, I worked in a factory, paid low wages, but managed to get enough together to get a mortgage, I had fertility treatment for my babies, one of my children has special needs, I watched my mum in law die from cancer, I have no support from family, and I'm studying at college. She's had a hard life and had **** thrown at her, doesn't make it right to behave as she does, I believe myself to be normal, hardworking, kind and with all the **** I've had I would never behave like her, she is not a worthy winner

So no......I'm not being silly, I'm being real.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I was bought up on a council estate, my mum committed suicide when I was 16, my dad was an abusive alcoholic, he still is an alcoholic, my step mum is the spawn of Satan, I've had to deal with mental/emotional/physical abuse as I grew up, I left home at 17 after my dad physically attacked me, I then learnt with the help of my husband to stand on my own two feet, I worked in a factory, paid low wages, but managed to get enough together to get a mortgage, I had fertility treatment for my babies, one of my children has special needs, I watched my mum in law die from cancer, I have no support from family, and I'm studying at college. She's had a hard life and had **** thrown at her, doesn't make it right to behave as she does, I believe myself to be normal, hardworking, kind and with all the **** I've had I would never behave like her, she is not a worthy winner

So no......I'm not being silly, I'm being real.

what a terrible start to life ,glad you've risen above it

[Tip]

I don't find Helen a particularly nice person - although it does look like she is extremely loyal if you are someone she considers a friend - but BB does need to have characters like her to keep people's blood boiling and keep watching. She's done well at least in that respect.

I do wonder if there would be a lot of resentment building up regardless of who was given a free ride to the final - BB plays us all, housemates and spectators.

[waterhog]

helen winning - i don't think so sunny jim.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by delta

She wasn't brought up in the South, she's from Bolton and that's the town she has lived in all of her life. The choices you make are easier if you are away from temptation and I guess these Northern Mill towns are hot bed of distractions. She obviously easily influenced and head strong but also has a desire to make money and be successful, whether she has gone about it in the right way is open to debate but who are we to judge.

From what we have seen on this years BB she has been the one that has stood in the trenches and told it how it is, if the rest don't like it well they need to grow a pair.

Tbh, neither of us know if she had a hard life or not so it's pointless using it to defend her behaviour.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

what a terrible start to life ,glad you've risen above it

from my kidsfrom my husbandand smiling into the face of hell is what gets me through XOXO