[Ellen]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Yes I know she did...that's the only time. However she stormed out there with Kimberley and Jale behind her...3 on 1...attacking. Ashleigh gave Helen as good as she got. Let's face facts Kimberley had no voice until she stood in Helens shadow.
Helen finally found a reason to attack Ashleigh because she saw her plotting...Ashleigh has had no reason to confront Helen because she has never directly offended Ashleigh. Ashleigh has discussed Helens appalling behaviour towards other housemates and how much she hates her for it...but everybody seems to sit back in there and watch her do it and say nothing. Chris and Christopher have done the same but they don't get slaughtered on here for it.

If Helen had have said something to Ashleigh before then she would have been called all sorts for picking on a poor defenseless 18 year old who could do no wrong. When Helen called out Ashleigh there was plenty who had witnessed Ashleigh's behaviour proving Ashleigh was no angel like some believed.

[Kazanne]

I don't want them to be friends,I prefer Helen as she was . Don't fall for it Helen!!

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't want them to be friends,I prefer Helen as she was . Don't fall for it Helen!!

What does it matter who they are friends with?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Achilles

What does it matter who they are friends with?

It doesn't ,I just prefer her to stick with Chris,everyone Ashleigh has been close to has gone,I just think Helen is fine as she is

[Brother Leon]

Ashleigh has obviously had the greater u-turn of the two(not that it's a bad thing). Not sure why Helen is getting the hate. Ashleigh was so obsessed with upsetting Helen she started targeting someone she actually likes herself just to spite Helen.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Ashleigh has obviously had the greater u-turn of the two(not that it's a bad thing). Not sure why Helen is getting the hate. Ashleigh was so obsessed with upsetting Helen she started targeting someone she actually likes herself just to spite Helen.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Ashleigh has obviously had the greater u-turn of the two(not that it's a bad thing). Not sure why Helen is getting the hate. Ashleigh was so obsessed with upsetting Helen she started targeting someone she actually likes herself just to spite Helen.

But remember at that time Helen was at her nasty and bullying worst. Ashleigh was trying to get rid of the bully's sidekick who sat and laughed and encouraged the bully because the bully herself couldn't be touched. A very courageous thing to do. It didn't work, but she was the ONLY one to attempt anything to weaken the bully's position.

Yet some people think she was just being sly ....you couldn't make up the lack of awareness

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by jet

But remember at that time Helen was at her nasty and bullying worst. Ashleigh was trying to get rid of the bully's sidekick who sat and laughed and encouraged the bully because the bully herself couldn't be touched. A very courageous thing to do. It didn't work, but she was the ONLY one to attempt anything to weaken the bully's position.

Yet some people think she was just being sly ....you couldn't make up the lack of awareness

She was at her worst in week 1 when Ashleigh herself was laughing and licking her arse...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

She was at her worst in week 1 when Ashleigh herself was laughing and licking her arse...

She was at her worst frequently until she got a final warning which soon clipped her sails.
Ashleigh was not part of the cool gang that encouraged Helen and laughed at people. Stop telling porkers.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by jet

But remember at that time Helen was at her nasty and bullying worst. Ashleigh was trying to get rid of the bully's sidekick who sat and laughed and encouraged the bully because the bully herself couldn't be touched. A very courageous thing to do. It didn't work, but she was the ONLY one to attempt anything to weaken the bully's position.

Yet some people think she was just being sly ....you couldn't make up the lack of awareness

Ashleigh herself laughed at it early on, in fact Ashleigh told Toya, Pauline & Kim that she thought Helen was really funny.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ellen

in fact Ashleigh told Toya, Pauline & Kim that she thought Helen was really funny.

And then reality kicked in.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by wannashag

And then reality kicked in.

[jet]

Originally Posted by wannashag

And then reality kicked in.

Didn't it just...with a vengeance!

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by wannashag

And then reality kicked in.

Really? Funny how she still laughs with Helen even at her own friends expense.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by wannashag

And then reality kicked in.

Aka


She heard the boos.

[Niamh.]

I don't think this truce will last, it'll go how it did last time, they'll be fine with eachother until BB throw a spanner in the works and pit one against the other like they did with with the Power alliance

[Alf]

Ashleigh is playing Helen like a tuba.

[armand.kay]

This is like when Imogen and aisleyne became besties

[LukeB]

this means helen wont nominate ashleigh next week thats fine with me

[jet]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

this means helen wont nominate ashleigh next week thats fine with me

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

this means helen wont nominate ashleigh next week thats fine with me

She well may not, if it normal noms that is, whoever is left of Zoe and Pav will likely be one of Helen's noms and possibly Mark will be her other one.

[Tip]

Helen not only says it to people's faces, and says things behind their backs.
She also denies saying things she said behind their backs.

"I didn't say that Steven, I would never say that" (cry cry)etc. etc. etc.

Ashleigh was quite bitchy in some of the gossiping sessions I saw her in.

Nobody is perfect. Some find Helen's behaviour more forgivable, personally I find it really hard to forgive some of what Helen does/did, and easier to forgive Ashleigh.

It takes all sorts, and there is evidently no point in trying to change people's minds about it either way.