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LukeB · 03-08-2014, 01:36 PM

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Like with the creepy card for Chris?

Except that she did bully people :P

this.

Tip · 03-08-2014, 12:54 PM

I think she has changed at least in some ways.

I'm pretty sure she'd have never said to a fellow HM that she is nice to people even if she "doesn't like them because it's easier" in the first few weeks. Time and experience can indeed change how people behave. Whether changes to behaviour mean that anything substantial has changed in her character is debatable of course.

Whether that means that she'd never treat people how she did when she first went in the house, I don't know. I don't know if she ever treated people that way outside of the house anyway - or if it was an odd blip in her normal character due to it being BB.

I have opinions on it, but I don't actually know or care too much. I'm just glad not to be seeing her old behaviour.

Kazanne · 03-08-2014, 01:12 PM

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

LukeB · 03-08-2014, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

difference is helen bullied ashleigh just bitched like most people do

no one likes a bully, bullies are scums

bots · 03-08-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

Absolutely agree. The haters on both sides are making up complete distortions of reality now. I couldn't give a flying fig what Helen did a few years ago, and I'm certainly not going to sit in judgement of her, they should perhaps be looking more inward to their own behaviour. It sure isn't pretty.

rubymoo · 03-08-2014, 01:36 PM

I think Helen has just calmed down, there's no need for her to get so aggressive as they all know where they are in the pecking order.

I am warming to her, but she certainly wouldn't be someone i'd be friends with!

It's what the shows about...putting different people from different backgrounds together, i'm sure in a million years that Helen and Ashleigh would never be friends which is why there was conflict, there is no redemption, Helen is Helen!

bbfan1991 · 03-08-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo

I think Helen has just calmed down, there's no need for her to get so aggressive as they all know where they are in the pecking order.

I am warming to her, but she certainly wouldn't be someone i'd be friends with!

It's what the shows about...putting different people from different backgrounds together, i'm sure in a million years that Helen and Ashleigh would never be friends which is why there was conflict, there is no redemption, Helen is Helen!

Helen has calmed down because she's been warned before and she obviously wants to win the public over, she's just as desperate as the others to win the show. If anything it's just upping the tactics up!

LukeB · 03-08-2014, 02:18 PM

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Helen has calmed down because she's been warned before and she obviously wants to win the public over, she's just as desperate as the others to win the show. If anything it's just upping the tactics up!

as i said no one likes a bully, a bully will never win big brother. she would be gone by now if it wasnt for that pass

Kazanne · 03-08-2014, 02:21 PM

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as i said no one likes a bully, a bully will never win big brother. she would be gone by now if it wasnt for that pass

No she wouldn't ,IF BB thought Helen had bullied as bad as you are making out ,she'de have been ejected,Fact,

LukeB · 03-08-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

No she wouldn't ,IF BB thought Helen had bullied as bad as you are making out ,she'de have been ejected,Fact,

formal warning just saying
and yes she would people would evict her
not many like helen i see more hate for helen

Tip · 03-08-2014, 01:43 PM

Tbh I think it's only her previous behaviour that keeps people interested in her now.

If she had been as she is now all along - well, she's not the most entertaining or interesting of HMs except for the comparison with how she behaved previously in my view.

rubymoo · 03-08-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tip

Tbh I think it's only her previous behaviour that keeps people interested in her now.

If she had been as she is now all along - well, she's not the most entertaining or interesting of HMs except for the comparison with how she behaved previously in my view.

I agree!

She's been very boring, as have all the others really.

Marsh. · 03-08-2014, 02:15 PM

It's obvious Helen has calmed down the last few weeks hence her getting along better with people like Ashleigh.

So where is this edit trying to manipulate and give her redemption? If she spent 6 weeks going full energy and now she can't be arsed then there isn't much else they can show other than calm Helen.

Patricia4 · 03-08-2014, 02:17 PM

I didn't like Helen at the beginning and don't like her now she only changed when she knew she was going through the door if she put a foot wrong Im not fooled by her.
To be honest I cant pick a winner this time there isn't one that deserves the title.
Mark was the best for a laugh but then became very false so goodness know's who will win for me just share the money out between them and roll on the next BB.