[Ellen]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I never agree for the sake of agreeing Kazanne,

I am just one at least, who never saw this as a new friendship of any measure at all.
Neither of them are now false for calling the other because neither have ever liked the other.
Furthermore,I would predict, they never will either.

I'm surprised so many that dislike Helen still want to talk about her so much and give her publicity,I really have little wish to talk about Ashleigh at all.
Although I will give her credit odd times 'if' I feel she warrants it.

Great Post Joey.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

hi Joey as much as I like debating on here this year it's totally pointless as some will never give credit where credit is due, I'm going to try and find threads that have a point to them instead of the constant slagging off at Helen,it's laughable really,they are calling Helen all sorts and at the same time calling her all sorts,you couldn't write it

Same story with Ashleigh, it's all pathetic

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

instead of the constant slagging off at Helen,it's laughable really

What's laughable is that it's ok for certain people to constantly slag Ashleigh off (including having digs at her appearance) but wont have the same said about their beloved Helen.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

oh God,PLEASE all agree with jet and co in here,just to get some peace from it all it,s so so tedious and immature

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

What's laughable is that it's ok for certain people to constantly slag Ashleigh off (including having digs at her appearance) but wont have the same said about their beloved Helen.

Exactly.. Pot, kettle, black.

[Dollface]

The hypocrites be out in force today

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

They're all two faced hypocrites

This, to a degree they all are. Even Ashleigh. Infact I'd say out of them all the least two faced/hypocritical is Winston.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

This, to a degree they all are. Even Ashleigh. Infact I'd say out of them all the least two faced/hypocritical is Winston.

I actually very much agree with this

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dollface

The hypocrites be out in force today

Please stick to discussing the hm8s, members are not up for attacks

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Dollface

What's laughable is that it's ok for certain people to constantly slag Ashleigh off (including having digs at her appearance) but wont have the same said about their beloved Helen.

Well said.

[smudgie]

They are all playing the game, all call each other behind each other's back, boredom and limited space don't help.

The two females left in this year are so much alike in personality it is no wonder they clash.

Both quite bright re the game and both quite bitchy, only difference for me is that Ashleigh hasn't shown the bullying tendencies that Helen has.

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No one can accuse Helen of not saying it to faces ,why else has she had her warnings she's no sneak unlike the swanky sly mare

Helen said last night:

"I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to. In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you."

She therefore she has been two faced as she has been pretending to get along with Ashleigh.

I can only assume you haven't read the OP or are under the impression she said it to Ashleigh's face.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Helen said last night:

"I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to. In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you."

She therefore she has been two faced as she has been pretending to get along with Ashleigh.

I can only assume you haven't read the OP or are under the impression she said it to Ashleigh's face.

Not in the slightest she was being HONEST

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please stick to discussing the hm8s, members are not up for attacks

How'd you know i wasn't talking about the housemates there?

Drama queens will be drama queens

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not in the slightest she was being HONEST

Not to Ashleigh. She said that behind her back.

[Tip]

I think Helen is being honest - I don't think she has enough self awareness, maturity or depth of thought to realise when she is being self -contradictory.

You'd have to sit her down and show it all to her in slow motion to enable her to grasp it, so perhaps it is unfair to call her out on it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not in the slightest she was being HONEST

Honest behind someones back? But not to their face - as you said she always was.
As in:

No one can accuse Helen of not saying it to faces

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not in the slightest she was being HONEST

Yet when Asheligh states the same opinion she's being two-faced? Makes sense..

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not to Ashleigh. She said that behind her back.

She would say it to her face if need be too, i doubt Helen is bothered by little Miss straight talker

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Yet when Asheligh states the same opinion she's being two-faced? Makes sense..

These rules are confusing

[jet]

Originally Posted by Tip

I think Helen is being honest - I don't think she has enough self awareness, maturity or depth of thought to realise when she is being self -contradictory.

You'd have to sit her down and show it all to her in slow motion to enable her to grasp it, so perhaps it is unfair to call her out on it.

It's not just Helen being unable to grasp it that is disturbing.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She would say it to her face if need be too, i doubt Helen is bothered by little Miss straight talker

Pretty sure she is given how she's gone off on one..

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She would say it to her face if need be too, i doubt Helen is bothered by little Miss straight talker

She hasn't though. Even during her little chat this morning with Ashleigh/Chris.

You must have missed the clip of Helen ranting about Ashleigh last night.

Helen definitely is bothered.

[bots]

there has been so much argument/discussion over 2 faced/straight talking and 3000 variations in between. But does anyone actually want either Helen or Ashleigh to stop doing it? I don't

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there has been so much argument/discussion over 2 faced/straight talking and 3000 variations in between. But does anyone actually want either Helen or Ashleigh to stop doing it? I don't

Haha you're right!