[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Ithinkiloveyoutoo killed off all her points and this thread in general tbh.



Anyway, Every black person in Ferguson/New York/Florida etc has a right to protest how disposable a black person's life is in comparison to any other.

By killed off what do you mean?

The comment up there was sarcasm.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Urwreatha

no we wouldnt

because no one would care

its sad really

We wouldn't because his life would never have been in danger in such a situation anyway. Murderers and Serial killers have 12 hour standoffs with Police to ensure there are no deaths. Black dude from the hood doesn't get that privilege though.

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

By killed off what do you mean?

The comment up there was sarcasm.

As in you rendered her points pointless.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We wouldn't because his life would never have been in danger in such a situation anyway. Murderers and Serial killers have 12 hour standoffs with Police to ensure there are no deaths. Black dude from the hood doesn't get that privilege though.


As in you rendered her points pointless.

Oh ok. Thanks boo.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We wouldn't because his life would never have been in danger in such a situation anyway. Murderers and Serial killers have 12 hour standoffs with Police to ensure there are no deaths. Black dude from the hood doesn't get that privilege though.


As in you rendered her points pointless.

You aren't making any sense.

Please tell me the name of the white serial killer that tried to grab a police officers gun and ended up in a 12 hour stand off???

or are you just making it up?

[GiRTh]

^^Cliven Bundy is a man who admitted that he did not recognize or respect the police authorities when they tried to stop his cattle grazing on government property last year. The cattle had been grazing for over twenty years and Bundy had not paid his taxes. He and his like minded friends were involved in a ARMED protest against the police that ended peacefully. HE became the darling of the right wing media till they realized was crazy. As if threatening to arm and protect himself against the police wasnt enough of a hint.

Mike Brown, Tamir Rice and who ever else you want to mention were not armed and they were not allowed to surrender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Thank **** it wasn't a toy gun, a pack of cigs and/or actual real threat of death from the attacker because he might've been shot dead. Phew. England, US same. Even that crazy cinema shooter reserved some human rights after clearly being the murderer. Phew

See, doing something like that should of gotten him killed, what were those cops smoking

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Mike Brown, Tamir Rice and who ever else you want to mention were not armed and they were not allowed to surrender.

Dude............................... What is a police officer supposed to do when somebody who WILL beat the **** out of him keeps going for his gun and attacking him, even after being shot once... I honestly think people would of preferred it if Mike Brown had taken the officer's gun and killed him with it

[GiRTh]

He kept going for the gun even after being shot did he? Was he a super hero?

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

He kept going for the gun even after being shot did he? Was he a super hero?

Yes he did, he attacked the officer, tried to get his gun so the officer shot him, and then afterwards he went for him again and was put down.

Open and shut case. People need to stop being racist and assuming every black criminal the police apprehend/put down was done that way because of the color of their skin, they are doing their jobs, the entire 'OMG IT WAS CUZ HE WAS BLACK' is just as racist as somebody actually targeting people for their skin color, stop objectifying people based on their race.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Yes he did, he attacked the officer, tried to get his gun so the officer shot him, and then afterwards he went for him again and was put down.

Open and shut case. People need to stop being racist and assuming every black criminal the police apprehend/put down was done that way because of the color of their skin, they are doing their jobs, the entire 'OMG IT WAS CUZ HE WAS BLACK' is just as racist as somebody actually targeting people for their skin color, stop objectifying people based on their race.

The evidence doesn't back your apparent certainties and I've just given you an instance where police allowed an ARMED man and and his ARMED friends to peacefully surrender.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The evidence doesn't back your apparent certainties and I've just given you an instance where police allowed an ARMED man and and his ARMED friends to peacefully surrender.

There is the same amount of evidence backing what I said as there is the crap the race card babies are spewing. I'll believe the word of a police officer, thank you. Title alone gives him more credit than anyone else involved in this joke.

So, the armed protest... They were attacking a putting officers lives in danger were they? Thought not.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Creggle

There is the same amount of evidence backing what I said as there is the crap the race card babies are spewing. I'll believe the word of a police officer, thank you. Title alone gives him more credit than anyone else involved in this joke.

So, the armed protest... They were attacking a putting officers lives in danger were they? Thought not.

Its a joke is it? That an unarmed person was gunned down in the street? Now I see where you're coming from.

As for the armed protest? Please explain how an unarmed man is more of a threat than an armed gang?

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its a joke is it? That an unarmed person was gunned down in the street? Now I see where you're coming from.

As for the armed protest? Please explain how an unarmed man is more of a threat than an armed gang?

Well now you've stooped to twisting words I can see where you've been coming from. What is a joke, is the uproar over it. I'm sorry but if an 'unarmed' man assaults a police officer and attempts to take his weapon from him, the officer is free to do whatever he wants, the perp loses his right to live.

LMAO okay, let me stand next to you with a gun, and then let my unarmed 6'7 friend attack you repeatedly, it's nice to see you'd see me as the threat in that situation.

Both situations are uncomparable. Holding a weapon doesn't make you a threat, attacking somebody does.

[Niamh.]

Holding a weapon makes you a threat, of course it does

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Creggle

the officer is free to do whatever he wants, the perp loses his right to live

jesus

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Well now you've stooped to twisting words I can see where you've been coming from. What is a joke, is the uproar over it. I'm sorry but if an 'unarmed' man assaults a police officer and attempts to take his weapon from him, the officer is free to do whatever he wants, the perp loses his right to live.

LMAO okay, let me stand next to you with a gun, and then let my unarmed 6'7 friend attack you repeatedly, it's nice to see you'd see me as the threat in that situation.

Both situations are uncomparable. Holding a weapon doesn't make you a threat, attacking somebody does.

He loses his right to live cuz he's a big guy but a gang, with guns, who have threatened to resist the cops are less of a threat? WTF I dont get this logic.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Holding a weapon makes you a threat, of course it does

Not if you're doing so to prove a point and make it painfully obvious that's all it is for, please don't give these criminal sympathizers a shred of righteousness to cling onto, it does nobody any good.

Originally Posted by GiRTh

He loses his right to live cuz he's a big guy but a gang with guns who have threatened to resist the cops are not? WTF I dont get this logic.

The flawed logic is your comparison, you're comparing a dude who is actively assaulting and endangering another human being to an overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police? I know you're quite desperate to keep the comparison holding some form of substance towards your agenda here but it's ridiculous.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Not if you're doing so to prove a point and make it painfully obvious that's all it is for, please don't give these criminal sympathizers a shred of righteousness to cling onto, it does nobody any good.



The flawed logic is your comparison, you're comparing a dude who is actively assaulting and endangering another human being to an overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police? I know you're quite desperate to keep the comparison holding some form of substance towards your agenda here but it's ridiculous.

"loons" with guns isn't a dangerous combination then?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Creggle

overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police?

But peaceful protests in Ferguson were forcefully broken up by police with military grade weaponry. The inconsistency is the real crime IMO.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

"loons" with guns isn't a dangerous combination then?

Depends on your definition of a loon, I think crazy people who shout at oranges, I guess others could perceive it as psychopaths

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Depends on your definition of a loon, I think crazy people who shout at oranges, I guess others could perceive it as psychopaths

either way someone who's "unbalanced" in charge of a gun is pretty dangerous imo

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

But peaceful protests in Ferguson were forcefully broken up by police with military grade weaponry. The inconsistency is the real crime IMO.

Yeah they should of been allowed to protest but I suppose when you have an army of sensationalists running around drumming up fuss over nothing, it could put the lives of other officers at risk from revenge attacks. It's not hard to see why the police sweep this under the rug, they know that if Mike Brown was white there wouldn't of been a single article on it bar an obituary.

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

either way someone who's "unbalanced" in charge of a gun is pretty dangerous imo

Indeed but opening fire on a group of apparently harmless nutjobs isn't the same as defending your own life against a viscous thug.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Yeah they should of been allowed to protest but I suppose when you have an army of sensationalists running around drumming up fuss over nothing, it could put the lives of other officers at risk from revenge attacks. It's not hard to see why the police sweep this under the rug, they know that if Mike Brown was white there wouldn't of been a single article on it bar an obituary.



Indeed but opening fire on a group of apparently harmless nutjobs isn't the same as defending your own life against a viscous thug.

An Army of sensationalists? Bundy was interviewed by the right wing press and none other than Sean Hannity himself told him on air that he'd like to join him. A supposedly fair and balance news anchor was publicly supporting an armed stand off against the police. Talk about fuss over nothing.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

An Army of sensationalists? Bundy was interviewed by the right wing press and none other than Sean Hannity himself told him on air that he'd like to join him. A supposedly fair and balance news anchor was publicly supporting an armed stand off against the police. Talk about fuss over nothing.

Lmao yes that whole armed protest was infuriatingly stupid I'll agree but I'm still not sure why they deserved to be fired upon if Mike Brown did. Not saying you're saying they should of been shot etc btw but the police finding a peaceful resolution to that, when they're in numbers and both sides don't exactly want death or injury is not the same as a single officer failing to find a peaceful resolution to somebody twice his size assaulting him. Mike would of probably killed the officer had he gotten the upper hand, the only person who could say otherwise would be Mike himself, but Darren didn't fancy taking that gamble.

[Daniel.]

The racism though