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Old 18-02-2015, 07:32 PM #1
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so you are basing your view on one person?
I did an 8,000 word thesis on the travelling community. It's based on many accounts from the community. I did however do some primary research which was that interview I mentioned above.
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I did an 8,000 word thesis on the travelling community. It's based on many accounts from the community. I did however do some primary research which was that interview I mentioned above.
I understand, thank you
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I like the French attitude towards nationalized gypsies, at least around the French Alps. They have zero tolerance for crime and unlike British police, are not intimidated by them but they also have a huge amount of respect for them and so do the French people. They encourage them to use their old passed down craft skills like basket weaving and give them a free pitch to sell their wares. They don't see a problem with them living off the grid providing they are law abiding.

There are loads of gypsies living around Briancon and I've never heard of any trouble.
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I like the French attitude towards nationalized gypsies, at least around the French Alps. They have zero tolerance for crime and unlike British police, are not intimidated by them but they also have a huge amount of respect for them and so do the French people. They encourage them to use their old passed down craft skills like basket weaving and give them a free pitch to sell their wares. They don't see a problem with them living off the grid providing they are law abiding.

There are loads of gypsies living around Briancon and I've never heard of any trouble.
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There're not a problem as long as they are nowhere near you or your town/village , if they are then they are an absolute fcuking nightmare.
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very good topic to the OP. a tricky one again ? but like all people - you have good and bad and after seeing my paddy on my big fat gypsy wedding - well i am biased as i love them and have respect for them.

not sure if i did propose to paddy but if i never i will now and i will sell the rights to ch4 for a follow up of our wedding ok paddy ? speak now or for ever hold your silence.

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They dominate a whole area in my city. They don't treat their horses well and basically Let them run riot.

I've come across travelers twice - a man and woman asked to 'borrow a line', god knows who they were calling. Then the second time a load came in my local. They were from N.Ireland but traveled all over Europe. You know it's travelers as soon as they walk in, they make sure of it! Me and a few mates had a game of killa with them and I won so all in all it was a good night. They were interesting to talk to and a nice bunch.
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I'd say,Some good,Some not so good.Same as any group of people.
Many years ago(maybe 12)When i was younger i worked in a sports store and there was a camp not far from it at certain times of the year.
They would come in with big wads of cash and one or two of them would buy something while the others went around trying to shoplift.We basically had to follow them around so they could'nt nick stuff.
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I know a fair few, and from my experience most are self entitled violent pricks. I know them via working in a bar that a group always frequent when they come up this way. One of them once threatened to shoot me for refusing to give him free drink

Another brought his son in and was playing pool with him and the kid beat him and he punched this 13 year old right in the face and started going mental about disrespect

Obviously all won't be like this (I bloody hope not anyway) but yeah..my personal experience hasnt been too grand
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The irish gypsy travellers Ive met and Ive met hundreds of them do in the vats majority follow the predictable behaviour pattern...aggressive disrespectful dishonest , they do not pay their way , they allow their horses to run wild. they threaten publicans and are often seen to be fighting in gangs....theyre distrusted and disliked in these parts for legitimate reasons...yes there are exceptions to the rule but theyre exceptions the majority behave in this disgusting way, usually because they know they will get away with it because people and cops especially are scared of them. I could give specific examples a vast number but Id better not for fear of reprisals
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and they don't pay taxes like the rest of civilization. the local coouncils pay to have the gypsy children taken to school and even build their toilets on their rent free camps.....theres even incident where the gypsies smash up their own toilets and sell off the lead and copper and slate....for profit....then demand a new toilet off the council (taxpayers again) no consequences just hand outs and its somehow racist to point out the facts and the truth. the lily livered liberals have created this fiasco yet again with their fantasy world politics. they love wasting other peoples money with no accountability
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I've only known 2, when i was younger.
They don't treat animals very well.
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They don't treat animals very well.
the travellers ive known let their ponies run around the town, the cops have to herd them up at huge expense again to the tax payer....I know a few stories where their ponies got herded up by the cops...then handed to the animal welfare then take to auction..on the way to the auction the travllers followed the bloke in the van and attacked him with a knife and demanded he let the ponies go free....this im told they do frequently as it means they use the animal welfare people to pay to feed and get the ponies their injections for free and then they steal them back.....of course the loony liberals wont accept any of these stories are true because everything is racist to them even the truth.
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what a brilliant post. If only the BBC uber liberals could show such balance
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HAS THE EURO STOLEN THE IDENTITY OF CLIFF RICHARD?

I’m not racist but surely allowing gypsies to flout our British way of life means that things have gone too far? Reading the works of Karl Marx is just not British.

Some leftists will predictably argue that gypsies aren’t reading the works of Karl Marx in reality. But reality has a well known left-wing bias. Beyonce agrees with me, saying today, "If only we had a privitised National Identity scheme this would never have happened".

Let’s kick out the sickos and reclaim our traditional British heritage.



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HAS THE EURO STOLEN THE IDENTITY OF CLIFF RICHARD?

I’m not racist but surely allowing gypsies to flout our British way of life means that things have gone too far? Reading the works of Karl Marx is just not British.

Some leftists will predictably argue that gypsies aren’t reading the works of Karl Marx in reality. But reality has a well known left-wing bias. Beyonce agrees with me, saying today, "If only we had a privitised National Identity scheme this would never have happened".

Let’s kick out the sickos and reclaim our traditional British heritage.



http://charlieharvey.org.uk/daily_mail/
The article this link leads to is totally banal. It is neither humorous nor satirical. Pointless irrelevance really.
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lets export all posters who laugh at their own posts. lets allow the loony liberals to preach about the rights of freedom and free speech then immediately see them lock up anyone who disagrees with them and states the actual real life truth
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I'll spare the details but I echo many on this thread tbh. I've had a few experiences with travellers and i absolutely believe in this case they deserve their reputation.
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