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Marsh. · 02-03-2015, 12:02 PM

Sky is hardly a reputable news source.

arista · 02-03-2015, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Sky is hardly a reputable news source.

Many who watch both Sky and BBC at the same time
not just me
see the Breaking News on Sky
then 5mins later its on BBC
Fact

Except Cliff Richard
as the BBC was corrupt pushing police

Marsh. · 02-03-2015, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Many who watch both Sky and BBC at the same time
not just me
see the Breaking News on Sky
then 5mins later its on BBC
Fact

Except Cliff Richard
as the BBC was corrupt pushing police

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 12:26 PM

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Marsh. · 02-03-2015, 12:50 PM

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AnnieK · 02-03-2015, 12:11 PM

Both reports say the same thing....it is thought the man went for the cops gun.

How is one biased and the other fast truth?

arista · 02-03-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Both reports say the same thing....it is thought the man went for the cops gun.

How is one biased and the other fast truth?

Compare the 2 Videos
Case Closed

AnnieK · 02-03-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Compare the 2 Videos
Case Closed

Not really but do carry on

Josy · 02-03-2015, 12:41 PM

This guy is clearly another product of a failing system, institutionalised for mental treatment for over ten years then allowed to leave and end up living on the streets, If he no longer satisfied the legal requirements for being in the hospital then he should have had the proper release counselling before being discharged, continued psychiatric examinations and provided with somewhere to live even if it was some sort of hostel.

As for the incident, if he did try to grab the gun then I suppose the officers do need to defend themselves although being killed for it is too severe, I really have no idea why these officers keep on shooting to kill, however the guy recording the video claims the man never had any gun at all...

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

This guy is clearly another product of a failing system, institutionalised for mental treatment for over ten years then allowed to leave and end up living on the streets, If he no longer satisfied the legal requirements for being in the hospital then he should have had the proper release counselling before being discharged, continued psychiatric examinations and provided with somewhere to live even if it was some sort of hostel.

As for the incident, if he did try to grab the gun then I suppose the officers do need to defend themselves although being killed for it is too severe, I really have no idea why these officers keep on shooting to kill, however the guy recording the video claims the man never had any gun at all...

to be fair the guy recording was far away and holding a phone trying to get a good shot so his utterings are not that reliable

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 01:04 PM

top DM comment below

"Don't EVER point a gun at a police officer. Also, if you are told to drop a weapon of ANY type, DROP it!"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3TEkpB3m3

Ninastar · 02-03-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

top DM comment below

"Don't EVER point a gun at a police officer. Also, if you are told to drop a weapon of ANY type, DROP it!"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3TEkpB3m3

This, really. All these stories of how awful and corrupt US cops are... When really, just do as your ****ing told. You KNOW what will happen if you don't, so why take the chance? Yes, US cops are pretty ****ing crazy sometimes, but my god, when you have to deal with some of the **** they have to deal with, of course you would be.

What annoys me is that people who have NEVER been to the US act like it's one of the worst places in the world for blah blah blah. Most of this stuff is just exaggerated in the media. There's nothing more the media loves than slagging off America.

What I find even more disturbing is that people like to film these sort of events.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos

This, really. All these stories of how awful and corrupt US cops are... When really, just do as your ****ing told. You KNOW what will happen if you don't, so why take the chance? Yes, US cops are pretty ****ing crazy sometimes, but my god, when you have to deal with some of the **** they have to deal with, of course you would be.

What annoys me is that people who have NEVER been to the US act like it's one of the worst places in the world for blah blah blah. Most of this stuff is just exaggerated in the media. There's nothing more the media loves than slagging off America.

What I find even more disturbing is that people like to film these sort of events.

common sense as always from chaoticninastar

Nedusa · 03-03-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaos

This, really. All these stories of how awful and corrupt US cops are... When really, just do as your ****ing told. You KNOW what will happen if you don't, so why take the chance? Yes, US cops are pretty ****ing crazy sometimes, but my god, when you have to deal with some of the **** they have to deal with, of course you would be.

What annoys me is that people who have NEVER been to the US act like it's one of the worst places in the world for blah blah blah. Most of this stuff is just exaggerated in the media. There's nothing more the media loves than slagging off America.

What I find even more disturbing is that people like to film these sort of events.

Sad thing is even if you put the "fcuking gun down"....... they will still probably shoot you.

It's a lose lose situation.

GiRTh · 02-03-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

top DM comment below

"Don't EVER point a gun at a police officer. Also, if you are told to drop a weapon of ANY type, DROP it!"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3TEkpB3m3

CLiven Bundy did both of those and even went on TV and told them he was gonna do it. HE was arrested not shot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

CLiven Bundy did both of those and even went on TV and told them he was gonna do it. HE was arrested not shot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Not what this thread is about girth. Stick to the story.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

CLiven Bundy did both of those and even went on TV and told them he was gonna do it. HE was arrested not shot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

How in any way is that the same as a close grapple with a mentally derranged man who grabs a cops gun with the intention of shooting him?

Iceman · 02-03-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Both reports say the same thing....it is thought the man went for the cops gun.

How is one biased and the other fast truth?

It's beacuse if Arista's whimsical hate of the BBC.

Josy · 02-03-2015, 12:56 PM

Right pack it in with the smileys and stupid posts, this is the serious debates section, off you go to c&g if you are unable to take part in an adult conversation.

Kizzy · 02-03-2015, 02:46 PM

It was an execution the other officers would have had to step back so the guy could be shot 5 times to avoid being hit. There was no attempt to taser him.

arista · 02-03-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was an execution the other officers would have had to step back so the guy could be shot 5 times to avoid being hit. There was no attempt to taser him.

Only because the Homeless man
stole a Policemans gun FAST

In America you do what the police say
and Fast
I have Worked there.

Mokka · 02-03-2015, 02:58 PM

I think the real issue is how we criminalize our mentally ill in this society.
This isn't a man who could have been working and participating as a contributing member of society as Arista would claim he needed to be doing to be of value...
This is a man who should have still had medical help for his mental health, and was turned out on the streets to fend for himself.
The outcome of his story was never going to end well.

That being said... 5 shots to kill seems excessive for this situation

arista · 02-03-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokkajava

I think the real issue is how we criminalize our mentally ill in this society.
This isn't a man who could have been working and participating as a contributing member of society as Arista would claim he needed to be doing to be of value...
This is a man who should have still had medical help for his mental health, and was turned out on the streets to fend for himself.
The outcome of his story was never going to end well.

That being said... 5 shots to kill seems excessive for this situation

Not In America

A Land Built on the Gun

Niamh. · 02-03-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokkajava

I think the real issue is how we criminalize our mentally ill in this society.
This isn't a man who could have been working and participating as a contributing member of society as Arista would claim he needed to be doing to be of value...
This is a man who should have still had medical help for his mental health, and was turned out on the streets to fend for himself.
The outcome of his story was never going to end well.

That being said... 5 shots to kill seems excessive for this situation

Yep, have to agree with all of this

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2015, 04:25 PM

No. I was showing what the top comment was on dm

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