[Raph]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Lol Raph do you realise Callum and Sam were BB14 recruits...

Disliking Sindy for being a recruit is silly. It's like discriminating against someone for their age/gender/race etc

It's different for me for BBUK/Canada cause it's more of a strategic game in Canada so I prefer the gameplayers who are super savvy about the game. That, and Callum actually wasn't a recruit, so yeah haha.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

but Hayden I want real people and real fans on this show

Stop trolling Troy!

Originally Posted by Raph

It's different for me for BBUK/Canada cause it's more of a strategic game in Canada so I prefer the gameplayers who are super savvy about the game. That, and Callum actually wasn't a recruit, so yeah haha.

Fair enough but being a recruit doesn't automatically make them any less worthy than the others at the end of the day they will all walk in and leave through the same door.

And you are kidding yourself if you think anyone from BB14 wasn't recruited

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Stop trolling Troy!


Fair enough but being a recruit doesn't automatically make them any less worthy than the others at the end of the day they will all walk in and leave through the same door.

And you are kidding yourself if you think anyone from BB14 wasn't recruited

Sophie, the twins are 100% not recruits

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Lol Raph do you realise Callum and Sam were BB14 recruits...

Disliking Sindy for being a recruit is silly. It's like discriminating against someone for their age/gender/race etc

No it's not. Discriminating on the grounds of age/gender/race and not liking the idea of housemates being recruits are massively different.

I don't really see it as a valid reason to dislike someone (but disliking the notion of recuits, sure), but I don't agree with that analogy.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

No it's not. Discriminating on the grounds of age/gender/race and not liking the idea of housemates being recruits are massively different.

I don't really see it as a valid reason to dislike someone (but disliking the notion of recuits, sure), but I don't agree with that analogy.

You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Hayden

You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.

Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.

There's a diference between a "fan" and a "super fan" -Neda

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Raph

Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.

By background, I mean how they all got on the show.

Quite frankly you are judging someone unfairly just because they don't have the same interests as you or other 'super fans'.

I suppose I should hate anyone on this forum who doesn't like BB or no longer watches cause, hey, why'd they join the forum if it has big brother in the title?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Hayden

You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.

Not liking recruits on reality shows is of course a prejudice against recruits (and as I said, I don't see it as a valid reason to dislike someone), but that's not even slightly similar to being racist, sexist or ageist.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Not liking recruits on reality shows is of course a prejudice against recruits (and as I said, I don't see it as a valid reason to dislike someone), but that's not even slightly similar to being racist, sexist or ageist.

Why not? They can't change who they are. Forcing someone to be interested in a reality show they've been asked to participate in is like forcing the nerdy girl in school to ditch the books and start watching 90210 just to fit in with the cool girls xoxo

[Macie Lightfoot]

but Hayden I want real people and real fans on this show

[Macie Lightfoot]

savvy superfans like Peter Brown and Arlie Shaban? k.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

savvy superfans like Peter Brown and Arlie Shaban? k.

lmao

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

savvy superfans like Peter Brown and Arlie Shaban? k.

@ the thought of Peter being on the sideshow again

[JerseyWins]

I agree with Raph although I like superfans and recruits about equally. It depends on how good (and not annoying) of a superfan they are or how entertaining (and not annoying) of a recruit they are.

The show needs a good combination of both IMO.

[Raph]

I love your sig about fans v superfans Luke Neda knows what she's talking about!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

I love your sig about fans v superfans Luke Neda knows what she's talking about!

I saw her tweet today about it, she is a super fan and she was the best player of that season imo, when will recruits

[Raph]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I saw her tweet today about it, she is a super fan and she was the best player of that season imo, when will recruits

Preach it Luke!!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Preach it Luke!!

super fans are most likely to win too

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes how dare every person who walks into the BB house not waste precious hours watching the show, watching feeds, etc. Props to them for actually having a life?

[Raph]

Also, it's the beginning of the show so this is all we know about the houseguests -- last season by the end Kenny and Rachelle were my favorites, both who were recruits but on a first impressions basis of course im gonna prefer a superfan as I can relate more to them, in general.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Most of the self-professed superfans really are nothing other than armchair critics who think they know everything, claim that when they get on the show they're going to lie and backstab and dupe everyone (because everyone is the hero of their own narrative) without realizing that everyone else is going to be doing the same as well, and then finally get on the show and get bounced in humiliating fashion. Just like Peter did, just like Arlie did, just like Max did on Survivor, etc. Priding yourself on your superfan status is just really pretentious and sets you up to fail.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Most of the self-professed superfans really are nothing other than armchair critics who think they know everything, claim that when they get on the show they're going to lie and backstab and dupe everyone (because everyone is the hero of their own narrative) without realizing that everyone else is going to be doing the same as well, and then finally get on the show and get bounced in humiliating fashion. Just like Peter did, just like Arlie did, just like Max did on Survivor, etc. Priding yourself on your superfan status is just really pretentious and sets you up to fail.

Hence why Dan and Derrick probably played the most flawless games in their 2 winning seasons, but alright, enough with you

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Raph

Hence why Dan and Derrick probably played the most flawless games in their 2 winning seasons, but alright, enough with you

I know you're probably furiously flipping through the two copies of Dan Gheesling's book that you have as we speak, but what I said doesn't even apply to Derrick at all lmao. He started watching by BB13 I'm pretty sure and wasn't going to apply again if he didn't get cast for BB16 and he didn't come in ridiculously cocky already. My post was mainly about annoying af superfans and "students of the game" like Jordan and Kevin (who I'm assuming people have high hopes for simply because he's a ****ing poker playe) who have done nothing but watch at home and think that they could go on any season and win because "I would just lie to everyone! I'd have so many alliances and string them all along until it was time to backstab them" and etc. Like, of course in that hypothetical scenario you would win because in your mind, you're the hero of your own narrative and everyone else is your pawn. You don't factor in anyone else because humans are so self-centered that they don't realize that everyone is simultaneously going about as their own hero.

Which is exactly why Dan lost BB14 in humiliating fashion for what it's worth

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I know you're probably furiously flipping through the two copies of Dan Gheesling's book that you have as we speak, but what I said doesn't even apply to Derrick at all lmao. He started watching by BB13 I'm pretty sure and wasn't going to apply again if he didn't get cast for BB16 and he didn't come in ridiculously cocky already. My post was mainly about annoying af superfans and "students of the game" like Jordan and Kevin (who I'm assuming people have high hopes for simply because he's a ****ing poker playe) who have done nothing but watch at home and think that they could go on any season and win because "I would just lie to everyone! I'd have so many alliances and string them all along until it was time to backstab them" and etc. Like, of course in that hypothetical scenario you would win because in your mind, you're the hero of your own narrative and everyone else is your pawn. You don't factor in anyone else because humans are so self-centered that they don't realize that everyone is simultaneously going about as their own hero.

Which is exactly why Dan lost BB14 in humiliating fashion for what it's worth

lol