[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't say it was evil... I said it was an outmoded tradition as we have domesticated dogs and cats as pets/workers in the west as they are now doing in China.

Shouldn't that be for the Chinese to decide though?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Shouldn't that be for the Chinese to decide though?

They are that's the topic of the thread isn't it? that many oppose it due to changing attitudes towards dogs as companions as opposed to food :/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So we're basically saying that we decided that it's evil cos we like Dogs more. Ok then

People see dog pack psychology and confuse it with love (your dog does not love you). People see dogs panting and think they're smiling because of the shape their face makes (dogs do not smile).

People feel differently about dogs because PEOPLE have spent hundreds of years working with dogs and so, for companionship, naming them and humanising them. No other reason and nothing intrinsically "special" about dogs over other mammals.

See... Vegans I can understand. I'd never be one but I get it - they just disagree with killing for food. The morals behind it, whilst they are not mine, are logical. But anyone cries that eating a dog is "Evil" whilst tucking into a chicken & bacon wrap, I'm afraid, can't be described as anything but a hypocrite.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People see dog pack psychology and confuse it with love (your dog does not love you). People see dogs panting and think they're smiling because of the shape their face makes (dogs do not smile).

People feel differently about dogs because PEOPLE have spent hundreds of years working with dogs and so, for companionship, naming them and humanising them. No other reason and nothing intrinsically "special" about dogs over other mammals.

See... Vegans I can understand. I'd never be one but I get it - they just disagree with killing for food. The morals behind it, whilst they are not mine, are logical. But anyone cries that eating a dog is "Evil" whilst tucking into a chicken & bacon wrap, I'm afraid, can't be described as anything but a hypocrite.

Yes but they are Loyal
as we feed them.
They also protect you.


Eating Dogs Is Evil.


Eating Roast Beef Dinner is Fine.


TS
In WW3
I will send you to the Front Line
with Military Robot back up.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but they are Loyal
as we feed them.
They also protect you.


Eating Dogs Is Evil.


Eating Roast Beef Dinner is Fine.


TS
In WW3
I will send you to the Front Line
with Military Robot back up.

They're loyal until you stop feeding them, then a week later, they eat you. Dogs are evil. In WW3 after all of the farms are destroyed I'm going to set up a little stall selling dog burgers made of strays, and everyone will say "mmmm, Mmm oh TS, you make the best ever dog burgers, what is your secret??" and I will say "I use puppies because they are so soft and tender".

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Dogs are different they're domesticated animals, bred for service and companionship. If we had done that to cows, pigs or sheep we'd feel different but we haven't

Pigs can be pets too, but they're still killed and cut up for people to eat

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Pigs can be pets too, but they're still killed and cut up for people to eat

Yes, if you are outraged by this then you should be equally outraged by slaughter of all animals. We have domesticated dogs and have attachments to them as a society as a result of that, but that doesn't make it any more immoral than killing another kind of animal.

[Ammi]

..I hadn't read or watched the vid because I thought that it would be too disturbing but this is not about whether dog meat is typically eaten in a China but about the festival and how the dogs are killed and that their killing and eating is 'celebrated'...?...I don't know how it got to WW3 because this is not eating to survive, it's about celebrating the slaughter of animals which I know is done in many customs/traditions but this festival has only been something since 1995 so it says in the article..so this is not a deep tradition or anything that they do this..and yeah, in China dogs are eaten and here we eat cows and we eat sheep and we eat pigs etc but it's not celebrated with a mass public slaughter and even in some cases, family pets 'taken'....

..I think that Yang Xiaoyun is amazing.....especially as well because she is an older person so could be more 'ruled' by things like traditions/customs etc but maybe it is actually because she's older that she has seen the 'change' in China through the years of dogs more and more becoming family pets and hoping for a whole attitude change toward them...sadly I don't think that's something that will happen quickly though even probably with the festival which is a very 'modern' thing...whatever the animal had been, I still think it would be wrong for a country to accept this 'slaughter celebration'...but because I'm sure that no one taking part feels that it's wrong, Yang is right...it's about appealing to the government to ban these things and also using social and any media to help do that...and of course, herself striving to influence.. let's hear it for the Yang....

[Kazanne]

Why don't people understand,it's the way they are KILLED that is worse for me absolutely needless to inflict such pain,IF you need to eat them at least just ****ing shoot them in the head,Have any of you seen the footage of how they are treated and killed,utterly barbaric

[Kazanne]

In a nutshell some people are down right scum and enjoy inflicting pain.

[Gusto Brunt]

Come on boy! I love dogs, me.

Such cruelty.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Come on boy! I love dogs, me.

Such cruelty.

aw,love him/herWho could hurt that

[Good King Glennceslas]

The dogs are needlessly beaten to death. It's disgusting.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Quasar

The dogs are needlessly beaten to death. It's disgusting.

I've seen it , it's appalling

[user104658]

Also for weddings, birthdays and christenings try my delicious rotating spit roasted dog served with salad in a pita bread. I call it "dogner kebab". Spectacular,

[Candy Annie Cane]

And where will you be arista?

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

And where will you be arista?

In WW3
Making Sure all Frontline Staff
are on the Lorry.


I am part of a Cog in the Machine

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

And where will you be arista?

He doesn't believe it yet, but he'll be busy tucking into the tasty terrier tortellini that I'll have given to him as a bribe so that he doesn't put me on the truck.

Bellissimo!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He doesn't believe it yet, but he'll be busy tucking into the tasty terrier tortellini that I'll have given to him as a bribe so that he doesn't put me on the truck.

Bellissimo!

Wrong Again
we are Armed
all WW3 appointed Troops go onto the trucks

No Other way is possible

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Wrong Again
we are Armed
all WW3 appointed Troops go onto the trucks

No Other way is possible

My German Shepherd's Pie begs to differ. You'll see.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My German Shepherd's Pie begs to differ. You'll see.

Wrong
In WW3
not time for jokers.

[Amy Jade]

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowned upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos up of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowed upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

Well said Amy,

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowned upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

I've seen some of the videos too AJ, and they are sickening, I totally agree. In fact I agree with everything you've said here. I've seen video footage of dogs being skinned alive then thrown in a sickening pile to die in agony, and that's not the half of it. Equating eating dogs to eating farm-reared animals is lunacy. I'm surprised people see so much humour in this subject.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've seen some of the videos too AJ, and they are sickening, I totally agree. In fact I agree with everything you've said here. I've seen video footage of dogs being skinned alive then thrown in a sickening pile to die in agony, and that's not the half of it. Equating eating dogs to eating farm-reared animals is lunacy. I'm surprised people see so much humour in this subject.

Tbh I see humour in pretty much every subject.