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jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

I'm beginning to debate whether BB16 is worse than BB12.

If you think about it BB12 only sucked because of bad casting and lack of live feed (which all C5 series have had). When you look at the problems the show has had over the last two years, the problems of BB12 aren't that bad.

At least BB12 wasn't a producer manipulated mess.

Aaron saved BB12, some vile tasks like the film premiere with the whole of OK magazine coming into the house, but no worse than the stream of legends who populated the house for 3 weeks this year.

I enjoyed BB12 but I was 12/13. Haha.

Jason. · 10-07-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jackc1806

Aaron saved BB12, some vile tasks like the film premiere with the whole of OK magazine coming into the house, but no worse than the stream of legends who populated the house for 3 weeks this year.

I enjoyed BB12 but I was 12/13. Haha.

BB12 was tacky as effin hell. But there was only a few problems with that series.

Now, there's many problems. And most of them stem from the production who will stay with the show till 2018. Constant twists, and manipulation. BB12 didn't have that.

BB12 only sucked because of a fame-hungry, un-diverse cast, and really bad tacky TOWIE editing and quality.

jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

BB12 was tacky as effin hell. But there was only a few problems with that series.

Now, there's many problems. And most of them stem from the production who will stay with the show till 2018. Constant twists, and manipulation. BB12 didn't have that.

BB12 only sucked because of a fame-hungry, un-diverse cast, and really bad tacky TOWIE editing and quality.

Yeah, the editing has improved a lot. But the production has got worse, like at least BB12 followed the basic format of BB (apart from LF)

Macie Lightfoot · 11-07-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BB6

I'm beginning to debate whether BB16 is worse than BB12.

If you think about it BB12 only sucked because of bad casting and lack of live feed (which all C5 series have had). When you look at the problems the show has had over the last two years, the problems of BB12 aren't minute in comparison. Sadly the show has much bigger problems now.

At least BB12 wasn't a producer manipulated mess.

I've been rewatch 12 and I can definitely confirm that it is better than 16. And this is coming from someone who ****ing loathes Aaron. I'd even argue that 12 is better than 15 tbh.

jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 10:57 PM

BB16 has the best house on 5 by far, some decent housemates, first two weeks had classic vibes ect, since has descended into a ludicrous, unstable, chemical mix that has spewed out **** stir task after **** stir task, every week some vile nomination twist, the legends and the hotel completely rendering the series pointless considering it went on for 3-4 weeks. One word to describe this series is desperate.

Last year, vile people, vile theme, consistently vile however, and had some classic moments- this series has had one. Jade with her 'aww did someone get a warning'

Both ****, can we go back to BB13 styley please? (Next best if we never have C4 style again)

MB. · 10-07-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jackc1806

BB16 has the best house by far, some decent housemates, first two weeks had classic vibes ect, since has descended into a ludicrous, unstable, chemical mix that has spewed out **** stir task after **** stir task, every week some vile nomination twist, the legends and the hotel completely rendering the series pointless considering it went on for 3-4 weeks. One word to describe this series is desperate.

Last year, vile people, vile theme, consistently vile however, and had some classic moments- this series has had one. Jade with her 'aww did someone get a warning'

Both ****, can we go back to BB13 styley please? (Next best if we never have C4 style again)

Yeah, for all of BB15's negatives, they were often balanced out by classic moments - many of which the public were part of (namely Ashleigh's iPhone Army and Winston's eviction). This series has really lacked that.

jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Yeah, for all of BB15's negatives, they were often balanced out by classic moments - many of which the public were part of (namely Ashleigh's iPhone Army and Winston's eviction). This series has really lacked that.

And the legendary Helen v Danielle argument, and Danielle's fish

Jase. · 10-07-2015, 10:57 PM

BB7 > BB6 > BB5 > BB9 > BB10 > BB2 > BB3 > BB14 > BB13 > BB8 > BB12 > BB11 > BB4 > BB15 > BB16

*didn't watch BB1

Jamesy · 10-07-2015, 10:58 PM

They are both equally as bad. I'd still choose BB16 though, just for the pure fact the cast is slightly better than BB15s.

Jason. · 10-07-2015, 10:58 PM

BB16 house is crap.

The BB15 house was the most C4 looking house. It dropped the gaudy feel all the other C5 houses, and fitted in well with the theme, and was slick and modern.

BB15 house would've been even better if they didn't use the same layout as BB14 house.

jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

BB16 house is crap.

The BB15 house was the most C4 looking house. It dropped the gaudy feel all the other C5 houses, and fitted in well with the theme, and was slick and modern.

BB15 house would've been even better if they didn't use the same layout as BB14 house.

This living room is much better, bedroom is horrible this year though

TomC · 10-07-2015, 10:59 PM

Both pretty darn bad, but BB15 kills BB16. This series has been a messy farce.

Last year's finalists seem titanic compared to this year!

And at least last years twists weren't geared to help their favourites (bar Week 7)

TomC · 10-07-2015, 11:00 PM

Both pretty darn bad, but BB15 kills BB16. This series has been a messy farce.

Last year's finalists seem titanic compared to this year!

And at least last years twists weren't geared to help their favourites (bar Week 7)

Will. · 10-07-2015, 11:00 PM

The only thing I like about BB16 house is the garden and bedroom at now.

The living area is quite horrid tbh - the kitchen is disgusting.

MB. · 10-07-2015, 11:00 PM

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

Jason. · 10-07-2015, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

BB15 isn't that bad for the first 4 weeks, compared to BB16 which died after 2 weeks, and got worse as the weeks went on.

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

Jase. · 10-07-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

So well put.

jackc1806 · 10-07-2015, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

BB15 isn't that bad for the first 4 weeks, compared to BB16 which died after 2 weeks, and got worse as the weeks went on.

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

That actually sums it up!

Talking about BB12, Tashie, Rebekkah, Aden, Anton, Maisy, Aaron, Faye, Jem, Mark, Heaven were fantastic housemates imo

Moosething · 10-07-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

^

TomC · 10-07-2015, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

I can totally relate to this - before BB16 I was thinking 'lets hope this series is better than BB15' but during BB16 I've genuinely found myself longing for moments like the ones youve mentioned from BB15. I'm now left thinking BB15 was an okay series. It was certainly memorable.

MB. · 10-07-2015, 11:01 PM

(BB12 could have been as good as BB13 with a better cast, I think. Not even a particularly more diverse one - just better, whatever that means)

Jason. · 10-07-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

(BB12 could have been as good as BB13 with a better cast, I think. Not even a particularly more diverse one - just better, whatever that means)

More entertaining, and less showmancey.

Jason. · 10-07-2015, 11:03 PM

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

Will. · 10-07-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

I agree, BB15 had some good eviction results but every eviction apart from Marc has been crap.

MB. · 10-07-2015, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

Also true. Even when there are some particularly horrible evictions in a series, it always seems to redeem itself somehow. The only other two occasions where the eviction order's been dreadful without redemption from start to finish for me are BB4 and BB11 - two of my least favourite series.

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