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Old 19-09-2015, 06:18 PM #26
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Homophobia is based on a system of oppression, straight people have never been oppressed you can't be heterophobic it's dumb AF to think so
Homophobia by it's most basic definition is hatred or aversion towards people based on their sexuality. The oppression gay people have suffered is discrimination at work, homophobic mindsets can absolutely exist without discrimination following. It's not "dumb AF" at all.

If somebody said that straight people have suffered in a similar way to gay people because of their sexuality, that would be pretty dumb, but that hasn't been said or even suggested.

If somebody has a prejudiced opinion on someone for being heterosexual (and who are we to say that there is nobody in the world who does?), then they are heterophobic.

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Gay people are bullied, thrown out of their homes, attacked and murdered but who cares because they're making jokes about straight people on the internet
Yeah, nobody in here has said anything of the sort.
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No, just like reverse racism doesn't exist tbh imo
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Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?
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I'm gonna repeat what I've said before - to discriminate, you need power, privilege, and prejudice.

Only straight people have privelege if you are speaking in terms of sexual orientation. So, no. It doesn't exist. Being discriminated against on a wide scale is not the same as "omg! susan said she doesnt like straight people". Nowhere in the world are straight people killed or arrested, let's put it at that.
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Gay people are bullied, thrown out of their homes, attacked and murdered but who cares because they're making jokes about straight people on the internet
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Prett much this.
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It doesn't seem to exist on a large scale (infact i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight) but surely out there somewhere, there are gay people that hate straight people? Just like there are black people that hate white people (as much as people like to dispute it) so yes I think it does exist, just not in the same way that homophobia seems to exists, if that makes sense
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Pretty bored of the "if it's not classic discrimination, or minority discrimination, it's not discrimination" argument spewed around and around all the time. Of course it's possible to be heterophobic lol.
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When have straight people ever been bullied at school for being straight, not been given the right to marry, been thrown out of places, been look down upon for being straight, been killed in there country for being straight, being straight becoming a criminal offence...

Never!
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But no one's even comparing it to be nearly as endemic or problematic as homophobia though...
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Pretty bored of the "if it's not classic discrimination, or minority discrimination, it's not discrimination" argument spewed around and around all the time. Of course it's possible to be heterophobic lol.
Its not possible to be heterophobic, its possible to be an attention seeker though. How can you discriminate against your parents for example? Or discriminate against the way you were brought into the world? Flawed logic on the part of the Tumblr attention seekers!
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Precisely my thoughts, something not being a massive widespread issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.
But the whole concept of 'discrimination' is based upon widespread prejudice and actions being taken as a result of that, on a structural basis.
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It doesn't seem to exist on a large scale (infact i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight) but surely out there somewhere, there are gay people that hate straight people? Just like there are black people that hate white people (as much as people like to dispute it) so yes I think it does exist, just not in the same way that homophobia seems to exists, if that makes sense
THIS - Exactly.
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Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?
Just go onto tumblr, there's plenty there. It happens anywhere on the internet. No one is saying that it's a huge issue. All I'm saying is that it can happen and that it's just as bad as hating a gay person for being who they are.
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Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?
Like I said, i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight. But I thought a phobia was a fear or dislike of something/someone, not an act. Just because people don't run around shouting "I hate straight people" doesn't mean there isn't anyone that has a hatred of straight people. I can see where you're coming from though, and in no way do I think heterophobia exists in the same way homophobia does.
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..I googled it and it is actually a thing and does exist as a phobia..this was how it was described...

Common Facts About Heterophobia

Although there are a few different causes for heterophobia, the most predominant reasons are a lash back against the straight community from gay or lesbian people. In most cases, the heterophobic person has been a victim of homophobic behavior in the past and is either lashing back at the straight community for their unfair treatment or is genuinely against heterosexuals, and feel that the straight community never has their best interest in mind. This term is often debated as it is very rarely a standard phobia that can attach itself to a person’s psyche. Still, it is a very real occurrence regardless of the actual origin of the problem
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...phobias themselves are irrational fears or something/and could be anything/of people of certain sexualities etc...but with discrimination/prejudice because of something someone is/who they are, like their sexuality..?..that doesn't have the same meaning as a phobia..but then if you have a phobia about something, a fear of that thing...wouldn't that then often lead to you holding prejudice, as in having a preconceived opinion../type thing...hmmmm...
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Its hard to hate a heterosexual as they are so lovely
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Aquaphobia is a fear of water. If we can have that, then we can have a word for fear of straight people.
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Homophobia isn't necessarily a fear of gay people though
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I think a lot of homophobes are pressed because gay people scare them, rather than just hating them for being gay.
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What about the gays hating women as they get 95%of all men?
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I think a lot of homophobes are pressed because gay people scare them, rather than just hating them for being gay.
Sure, but not all actually have a fear.
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I have never experienced it and am not sure if it exists.I suppose it could idk.I have experienced racism and i'm white so i suppose 'heterophobia' could exist.Maybe it does'nt exist though because it's not a wide scale problem and there are hardly any if any at all cases.Tbh idk.Good question though
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What about the gays hating women as they get 95%of all men?
Isn't disliking women the entire point of being gay tho
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Most straight blokes hate women too tbf
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Wouldn't it be good if all these stupid pigeon holes and labels didn't exist? If I really don't like someone it's because they're generally a dick, race or sexual persuasion doesn't come into it. I really do wish everyone was judged on who they are, not what they are.
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You can't get enough of us, don't lie.

Wouldn't it be good if all these stupid pigeon holes and labels didn't exist? If I really don't like someone it's because they're generally a dick, race or sexual persuasion doesn't come into it. I really do wish everyone was judged on who they are, not what they are.
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