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user104658 · 23-09-2015, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by iRyan

This. Straight people are not oppressed and that's where this discussion ends.

The only reason gay people could be afraid of straight people is because of the way they have been treated by straight people.

Are bananas oppressed? Buttons? Balloons maybe?

Small spaces? Crowds?

Clowns? Are we in the midst of a terrible culture of clown oppression?

How about dogs, horses, spiders? Silk? Velcro?

The answer I'm looking for there is "no". And yet there are phobias for all of those things.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with oppression. It has nothing to do with how one responds to that fear.

If there are people in the world who are irrationally scared of people because they are straight - if there is even one person who can be described such - then yes, heterophobia exists.

Ammi · 23-09-2015, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are bananas oppressed? Buttons? Balloons maybe?

Small spaces? Crowds?

Clowns? Are we in the midst of a terrible culture of clown oppression?

How about dogs, horses, spiders? Silk? Velcro?

The answer I'm looking for there is "no". And yet there are phobias for all of those things.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with oppression. It has nothing to do with how one responds to that fear.

If there are people in the world who are irrationally scared of people because they are straight - if there is even one person who can be described such - then yes, heterophobia exists.

..I would oppress, supress, prejudice against and physically abuse any balloon that ever came into my space...

user104658 · 23-09-2015, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I would oppress, supress, prejudice against and physically abuse any balloon that ever came into my space...

One of my workmates has a balloon phobia, so another blew one up and stuffed it in the safe one night knowing that the poor guy was going to be there, on his own, the next morning and would need to remove the offending balloon to get the money out. Hahaha.

Though that scenario would be quite worrying if the guy had hetero phobia instead...

Ashley. · 23-09-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are bananas oppressed? Buttons? Balloons maybe?

Small spaces? Crowds?

Clowns? Are we in the midst of a terrible culture of clown oppression?

How about dogs, horses, spiders? Silk? Velcro?

The answer I'm looking for there is "no". And yet there are phobias for all of those things.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with oppression. It has nothing to do with how one responds to that fear.

If there are people in the world who are irrationally scared of people because they are straight - if there is even one person who can be described such - then yes, heterophobia exists.

I love this! Good wording, I agree.

Northern Monkey · 23-09-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are bananas oppressed? Buttons? Balloons maybe?

Small spaces? Crowds?

Clowns? Are we in the midst of a terrible culture of clown oppression?

How about dogs, horses, spiders? Silk? Velcro?

The answer I'm looking for there is "no". And yet there are phobias for all of those things.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with oppression. It has nothing to do with how one responds to that fear.

If there are people in the world who are irrationally scared of people because they are straight - if there is even one person who can be described such - then yes, heterophobia exists.

Winner!

Smithy · 23-09-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are bananas oppressed? Buttons? Balloons maybe?

Small spaces? Crowds?

Clowns? Are we in the midst of a terrible culture of clown oppression?

How about dogs, horses, spiders? Silk? Velcro?

The answer I'm looking for there is "no". And yet there are phobias for all of those things.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with oppression. It has nothing to do with how one responds to that fear.

If there are people in the world who are irrationally scared of people because they are straight - if there is even one person who can be described such - then yes, heterophobia exists.

How you can compare those sorts of fears, it's ridiculous, homophobia is based on a system of oppression because being straight is seen as the norm. Comparing it to a fear of banana's is retarded

Homophobia and Heterosexism go hand in hand there isnt one without the other, Heterosexism is the belief that superiority of heterosexuality and, therefore, it’s right to dominance.

If you are homophobic you are heterosexist, you believe in the dominance of heterosexuals and therefore are oppressing any other person with a different sexual preference.

Firewire · 19-09-2015, 06:03 PM

You can hate straight people, sure, but why would you? I mean I can understand why people hate minority groups from the way they've been brought up and taught but in later life I don't think you can really be "heterophobic" because you can't really hate the entire straight group considering your parents must've been.

user104658 · 19-09-2015, 06:04 PM

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Also, yes it probably exists, and yes you can discriminate against non-minorities, and yes it is still bad. There is literally zero logic in any argument to the contrary. If any minority group thinks that "privileged" people possibly being discriminated against someone lessens their own struggle then,

A) They are wrong, and

B) I don't care.

Jay. · 19-09-2015, 06:09 PM

i have no idea it's not something i've really thought about before

Headie · 19-09-2015, 06:31 PM

No, just like reverse racism doesn't exist tbh imo

Tom4784 · 19-09-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'm gonna repeat what I've said before - to discriminate, you need power, privilege, and prejudice.

Only straight people have privelege if you are speaking in terms of sexual orientation. So, no. It doesn't exist. Being discriminated against on a wide scale is not the same as "omg! susan said she doesnt like straight people". Nowhere in the world are straight people killed or arrested, let's put it at that.

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Homophobia is based on a system of oppression, straight people have never been oppressed you can't be heterophobic it's dumb AF to think so

Gay people are bullied, thrown out of their homes, attacked and murdered but who cares because they're making jokes about straight people on the internet

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Originally Posted by Hayden

No, just like reverse racism doesn't exist tbh imo

Prett much this.

Smithy · 19-09-2015, 06:48 PM

Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?

Ninastar · 19-09-2015, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?

Just go onto tumblr, there's plenty there. It happens anywhere on the internet. No one is saying that it's a huge issue. All I'm saying is that it can happen and that it's just as bad as hating a gay person for being who they are.

Dollface · 19-09-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Can someone show me an actual documented example of heterophobia please?

Like I said, i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight. But I thought a phobia was a fear or dislike of something/someone, not an act. Just because people don't run around shouting "I hate straight people" doesn't mean there isn't anyone that has a hatred of straight people. I can see where you're coming from though, and in no way do I think heterophobia exists in the same way homophobia does.

Dollface · 19-09-2015, 06:52 PM

It doesn't seem to exist on a large scale (infact i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight) but surely out there somewhere, there are gay people that hate straight people? Just like there are black people that hate white people (as much as people like to dispute it) so yes I think it does exist, just not in the same way that homophobia seems to exists, if that makes sense

kirklancaster · 19-09-2015, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface

It doesn't seem to exist on a large scale (infact i've never heard of someone being discriminated against for being straight) but surely out there somewhere, there are gay people that hate straight people? Just like there are black people that hate white people (as much as people like to dispute it) so yes I think it does exist, just not in the same way that homophobia seems to exists, if that makes sense

THIS - Exactly.

Ammi · 19-09-2015, 07:39 PM

..I googled it and it is actually a thing and does exist as a phobia..this was how it was described...

Common Facts About Heterophobia

Although there are a few different causes for heterophobia, the most predominant reasons are a lash back against the straight community from gay or lesbian people. In most cases, the heterophobic person has been a victim of homophobic behavior in the past and is either lashing back at the straight community for their unfair treatment or is genuinely against heterosexuals, and feel that the straight community never has their best interest in mind. This term is often debated as it is very rarely a standard phobia that can attach itself to a person’s psyche. Still, it is a very real occurrence regardless of the actual origin of the problem.

...phobias themselves are irrational fears or something/and could be anything/of people of certain sexualities etc...but with discrimination/prejudice because of something someone is/who they are, like their sexuality..?..that doesn't have the same meaning as a phobia..but then if you have a phobia about something, a fear of that thing...wouldn't that then often lead to you holding prejudice, as in having a preconceived opinion../type thing...hmmmm...

Shaun · 19-09-2015, 07:03 PM

Pretty bored of the "if it's not classic discrimination, or minority discrimination, it's not discrimination" argument spewed around and around all the time. Of course it's possible to be heterophobic lol.

Cal. · 19-09-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Pretty bored of the "if it's not classic discrimination, or minority discrimination, it's not discrimination" argument spewed around and around all the time. Of course it's possible to be heterophobic lol.

Its not possible to be heterophobic, its possible to be an attention seeker though. How can you discriminate against your parents for example? Or discriminate against the way you were brought into the world? Flawed logic on the part of the Tumblr attention seekers!

Daniel. · 19-09-2015, 07:06 PM

When have straight people ever been bullied at school for being straight, not been given the right to marry, been thrown out of places, been look down upon for being straight, been killed in there country for being straight, being straight becoming a criminal offence...

Never!

Mystic Mock · 23-09-2015, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel_

When have straight people ever been bullied at school for being straight, not been given the right to marry, been thrown out of places, been look down upon for being straight, been killed in there country for being straight, being straight becoming a criminal offence...

Never!

That's discrimination though, not prejudice.