[user104658]

http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/155304/nice

Entirely relevant to this thread.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/155304/nice

Entirely relevant to this thread.

..so yeah I had to click and admit to the over 18yrs bit, trust you TS...they always get it so right though, don't they...South Park...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so yeah I had to click and admit to the over 18yrs bit, trust you TS...they always get it so right though, don't they...South Park...

If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.

I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.

I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".

...mind you I have to say, when I was at school a long time ago..we had a male tutor who was considered 'hot' and the subject of lots of crushes for some girl pupils..he was 27yrs old, with a new wife and young baby..I only really knew his age was what it was exactly because he and a 16yr old student had an affair and obviously it was a HUGE scandal and talking point, so his age was mentioned....I know she was 16yrs old and not a child in the eyes of the law but still, this was all in school ours and in the school itself and so a betrayal of trust and duty of care..from what I recall, there was no 'grooming' thoughts but more that she was the one criticised and being called pretty horrific things...she also became pregnant by him, by the way...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.

I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".

And again, it's other men that reinforce that view, just look at the comments in this thread alone for example

[Liam-]

I actually can't stand the way people don't take stories like this seriously if it's a woman doing the wrong, but go all out and want blood when a man takes advantage of a girl, it's actually infuriating.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The devious breaking of trust is unforgivable.

[Kyle]

It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kyle

It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.

He's lucky to have been abused?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He's lucky to have been abused?

If I were having a sexual liaison with a female teacher as a 15 year old lad the last word I'd be using is 'abused' I'll tell you that.

Look at the end of the day I said it's wrong and I totally understand the double standards but I'm not gonna sit and lie and pretend that if I knew this lad when I was in school that I wouldn't be patting him on the back and teling him well done for doing what we all dreamed of.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kyle

It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.

..yeah, I can understand that as well and how it becomes the 'thing to say' as well I guess..oh wow, my teachers never looked like that...

[Northern Monkey]

Everyone knows it's wrong.Nobody's stupid enough to think otherwise.I get what Kyle is saying.Looking at it from the 15 year old lad's perspective.I still remember being that age.I'd get a stiffy from the vibrations of the bus seat.Obviously it's wrong!Nobody thinks otherwise.His parents will obviously be furious.

[Ammi]

..that's a bit too much information there Paul...probably why you didn't save bus fare and walk instead...

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's a bit too much information there Paul...probably why you didn't save bus fare and walk instead...

Sorry.
I think it's true of most lads that age though was my point.Many blokes remember what it was like to be that age...The frustration,Like torture

[Livia]

I fail to see what a fifteen year old boy could offer a thirty year old woman. Inexperience and gratitude isn't such a turn on.

She should get the same treatment at a 30 year old male would get if he went with a 15 year old girl. The punishment has to be seen to be equal. At least her career's over.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its abuse

end of

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its abuse

end of

Thank you.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its abuse

end of

[2]

Abuse of power, trust, and since an under-16 cannot legally consent to sex, it's also rape technically.

She should be in jail.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

[2]

Abuse of power, trust, and since an under-16 cannot legally consent to sex, it's also rape technically.

She should be in jail.

Not often that we agree, but well said!

[the truth]

as always the double standards are never ever brought up by the mainstream media or politicians....the whole issue here of a women raping a minor is based on power manipulation exploitation grooming etc etc and it will leave lasting psychological damage on the boy , not to mention the enormous impact it will have on his lfe

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

as always the double standards are never ever brought up by the mainstream media or politicians....the whole issue here of a women raping a minor is based on power manipulation exploitation grooming etc etc and it will leave lasting psychological damage on the boy , not to mention the enormous impact it will have on his lfe

Absolutely agree, you should have a word with your fellow men who aren't taking it seriously with the "lucky guy" comments and the like

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Absolutely agree, you should have a word with your fellow men who aren't taking it seriously with the "lucky guy" comments and the like

people who say that are morons and I agree that type of drivel is often heard. men are usually brought up without fathers and are brainwashed into feminism and often poisoned against their fathers. so they disrespect their fellow men. this is all part of the feminazi indoctrination. they want to tear down masculinity, they want to revise history , disrespect and rewrite male achievements ...where too are the feminists outraged with these double standards? I thought they were about equality? theyre not theyre about getting everything for women and men can burn in hell

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

people who say that are morons and I agree that type of drivel is often heard. men are usually brought up without fathers and are brainwashed into feminism and often poisoned against their fathers. so they disrespect their fellow men. this is all part of the feminazi indoctrination. they want to tear down masculinity, they want to revise history , disrespect and rewrite male achievements ...where too are the feminists outraged with these double standards? I thought they were about equality? theyre not theyre about getting everything for women and men can burn in hell

Don't be absurd, that attitude is certainly not one taught by women or feminists, that's an old school, one of the lads, women are pieces of meat type attitude. Do you honestly think a mother teaches her son to be like that? Mothers are more likely to want to rip that "teacher" to pieces for going near their son, I know I would if he was my son

[Vanessa]

The lad is talking on This Morning.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't be absurd, that attitude is certainly not one taught by women or feminists, that's an old school, one of the lads, women are pieces of meat type attitude. Do you honestly think a mother teaches her son to be like that? Mothers are more likely to want to rip that "teacher" to pieces for going near their son, I know I would if he was my son

Very true. South Park did an episode that satirized the issue pretty well.

Youtube video