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user104658 · 11-10-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Is'nt there a part in Interstellar where one of them stays on the ship and a team go down to the surface of a planet but because the planet is so close to a black hole time travels much faster for them.When they get back up to the ship the guy who stayed behind has aged like 20 years or something?

Yeah time distortions are a huge part of the film, there's that one and

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Calderyon · 11-10-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

not necessarily, maybe your father has already been born and continues to exist, so killing your grandfather wouldn't change anything.

Is your grandfather still alive? if you killed him tomorrow would you cease to exist?

I presumed she meant, that my grandfather was killed, before my father had been conceived by my grandfather and -mother.

Northern Monkey · 11-10-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah time distortions are a huge part of the film, there's that one and

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Ashsleigh · 11-10-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Calderyon

I presumed she meant, that my grandfather was killed, before my father had been conceived by my grandfather and -mother.

But it's a paradox, isn't it?

You kill your grandfather, so you cease to exist, so then nobody could've killed your grandfather. So is your grandfather still alive?

That's what this thread is for

Ashsleigh · 11-10-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Didn't Futurama solve this one a few years ago, you just have to sleep with your Grandmother to ensure that you still exist

I don't think it can be solved unless someone actually did it.

waterhog · 11-10-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well you would cease to exist if your Grandfather and Grandmother haven't had your parent yet.

I was going to say this - well done mock.

I did do biology but I flunked it.

Ammi · 11-10-2015, 10:59 AM

...nothing would change surely...you would just be there thinking about going back in time to kill your grandfather..if you actually went back and killed him then you wouldn't exist so he would still be alive and you do exist but are unable to go back../if that makes sense...I'm not even sure it does to me...

lostalex · 11-10-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

There really is no 'right' time in the universe is there?Everything in the universe travels at its own time frame depending on the speed it's traveling.If an object is in close proximity to another object(like us to the sun and the sun to the galaxy) etc then it travels faster due to its orbit and the faster an object travels then the slower time around it goes.Is that right?That's my basic understanding.

Also add on top of that the fact that everything is traveling through space.The galaxy's etc which also has an effect on time.

Time really is relative.

this is the best explanation i think.

the only way to travel back in time would be to travel faster than the expansion of the universe itself, because the only real measure of time is how quickly;y the universe is expanding, but you can never travel so quickly towards the center of the universe that you could see the beginning of the universe, because it's already happened. The beginning of the universe has already happened, and really we are just watching the consequences of that at varying speeds.

lostalex · 11-10-2015, 12:47 PM

also there is the idea of re-incarnation...if re-incarnation is real then you would still exist no matter who your grandfather was, because your soul would still be put into a body, it's not about genetics if you believe in re-incarnation.

Northern Monkey · 11-10-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

this is the best explanation i think.

the only way to travel back in time would be to travel faster than the expansion of the universe itself, because the only real measure of time is how quickly;y the universe is expanding, but you can never travel so quickly towards the center of the universe that you could see the beginning of the universe, because it's already happened. The beginning of the universe has already happened, and really we are just watching the consequences of that at varying speeds.

Well yeah that sounds logical.Except there are theories that if you could bend time like folding a piece of paper then maybe instead of following the piece of paper(time) round the bend you could travel directly between the two sides(points in time),Maybe by going through a worm hole(if they exist) bypassing the bend(the timeline) and traveling back to a point that has already happened(the past).
I think it's unlikely to ever be possible but who am i?

Ramsay · 11-10-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

If you went back in time it would be a different universe. so it's true that you would never be born in that timeline, but it wouldn't affect the timeline you came from at all. There are tons of different parallel universes and timelines.

Pretty much what i've always thought also.

Samuel. · 11-10-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

If you went back in time it would be a different universe. so it's true that you would never be born in that timeline, but it wouldn't affect the timeline you came from at all. There are tons of different parallel universes and timelines.

This.

I don't believe there are already existing parallel timelines though, but I believe the first to travel backwards in time would effectively create one. But then, who knows if it's already happened and this is a parallel timeline?

I don't believe it's possible anyway.

Christmas Dynasnow · 11-10-2015, 01:34 PM

you cant go back in time is the actual answer

Kizzy · 11-10-2015, 01:35 PM

If the concept of time shifts and slips in space and time/dimensions are so acceptable then why not the idea of shuffling off the mortal coil... to another when we die?

Ashsleigh · 11-10-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel.

This.

I don't believe there are already existing parallel timelines though, but I believe the first to travel backwards in time would effectively create one. But then, who knows if it's already happened and this is a parallel timeline?

I don't believe it's possible anyway.

It's an interesting thought though. One little change made 200 years ago could affect us today. It's the reason why I'm glad time travel doesn't exist.

BBfanUSA · 11-10-2015, 01:36 PM

Personally I believe in the multiverse theory because you'd could be creating a time paradox by killing your grandfather, if he died before your parent was conceived, then you would cease to exist, therefore you're unable to kill your grandfather, thus bringing him back to life

Christmas Dynasnow · 11-10-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

If the concept of time shifts and slips in space and time/dimensions are so acceptable then why not the idea of shuffling off the mortal coil... to another when we die?

kizzy when you die nothing is going to happen, stop reaching

Northern Monkey · 11-10-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

It's an interesting thought though. One little change made 200 years ago could affect us today. It's the reason why I'm glad time travel doesn't exist.

But how do you know it does'nt exist?It might already have happened

This reality may just be one of many.

Jessica. · 11-10-2015, 02:05 PM

You can't guess anything exists unless there is proof to be honest. You can hope all you want but factually it doesn't exist.

Livia · 11-10-2015, 02:16 PM

Y'all need to watch The Butterfly Effect.

arista · 11-10-2015, 02:40 PM

[If you went back in time and killed your grandfather, what would happen?]

We are unable to travel back in time
but with high powered faster travel
we will jump ahead in time

Jamie89 · 11-10-2015, 02:46 PM

I suppose if you go back to kill your grandfather before you were born, then by definition of the scenario where you are in the past, you are already living in a world where it is possible to exist without having been born. And so killing him shouldn't make any difference to you in terms of the 'if he's dead you would never be born' problem. If you catch my drift?

Alternatively if you want to kill your grandfather AND travel through time without igniting the grandfather paradox, you could just travel to last week and kill him (assuming he was alive last week).

bots · 11-10-2015, 04:59 PM

Its pretty clear really, if its possible to travel back in time, it can only be within your own time line and therefore you can only go back to the point you were born, making it impossible to have killed your grandfather before you were born. Time only has relevance after the point you existed, it didn't exist before then.

user104658 · 11-10-2015, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel.

This.

I don't believe there are already existing parallel timelines though, but I believe the first to travel backwards in time would effectively create one. But then, who knows if it's already happened and this is a parallel timeline?

I don't believe it's possible anyway.

If time travel is possible though, the very concepts of "already" and "first" are meaningless, because the existence of time travel means that time is not linear. If it can happen, it has happened, and it has always happened.

Again - unless, of course, time travel was first invented in say the year 3020... And they went back to the year 2867... And that activated a paradox that completely screwed up space time. In which case we might coast along until 2867 and then POP the whole universe collapses in on itself.

user104658 · 11-10-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Y'all need to watch The Butterfly Effect.

No one needs to watch The Butterfly Effect, it's awful!

Plus irrelevant to the grandfather paradox because in the Butterfly Effect rules you timetravel within your own consciousness and so (in that example) the furthest back you could go is being a fetus. I guess you could maybe hang yourself on the umbilical cord as a sort of self-abortion...

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