[Marsh.]

No.

[Mokka]

I don't get infractions

But knowing the forum rules, and knowing that even though I say something in jest... It could be taken the wrong way... I usually self edit.

I often find myself going to post something, and even typing it out, but then rethinking it and deleting it before I even hit send.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No.

Yeah... We know

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

TBH I love the moderators in here. On the whole they do a great job but I would love them even more if they revealed themselves whilst applying an infraction. You just get a message saying whatever you said this and that your now banned by no name. But alas we are not privy to that information yet.

..why though..?..why would it be relevant to know that, if an infraction/ban etc is given then it would be in the admin section as to the reason so if it was thought to be unfair etc or something said which was misunderstood, then it could be discussed with any moderator/admin member ....knowing who actually gave it would just seem to me to be 'making it personal' when it's not a personal thing...

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

For me they simply don't. If anything they make me more un PC.

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I don't get infractions

But knowing the forum rules, and knowing that even though I say something in jest... It could be taken the wrong way... I usually self edit.

I often find myself going to post something, and even typing it out, but then rethinking it and deleting it before I even hit send.

This. Or I usually have to explain myself in small text afterwards so the moderators know that I am joking.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I don't get infractions

But knowing the forum rules, and knowing that even though I say something in jest... It could be taken the wrong way... I usually self edit.

I often find myself going to post something, and even typing it out, but then rethinking it and deleting it before I even hit send.

I am doing this increasingly now Mokka - especially on Serious Debates.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Infractions and bans are handed out due to forum rule breaks if they aren't changing you're behaviour then they will get harsher and lead to longer or indefinite bans. It's not difficult to take part in a forum without breaking rules.

It can be when mods hand out infractions for things that aren't even against the rules

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Smithy

It can be when mods hand out infractions for things that aren't even against the rules

This also... Just things that they have been personally insulted by.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

It can be when mods hand out infractions for things that aren't even against the rules

Well tbf it's impossible for the rules to list every rule break scenario possible (especially on here) so we do use our own initiative at times and I know this has been mentioned lots but every infraction has it's own discussion thread and we do post if we agree/disagree with certain infractions then reverse infractions or bans we don't feel were justified, we do make mistakes at times, and they are normally corrected once realised.

Originally Posted by Ashley.

This also... Just things that they have been personally insulted by.

Yes well personal insults are against the forum rules Ashley however mods rarely give infractions for things they are personally insulted by unless it's a clear rule break, in fact I've seen mods actually go into the admin section and ask someone else to deal with things if 1. they are taking part in the debate where the rule break is and 2. they don't like infracting for things personally said to them and prefer instead to delete the post (I delete things said about me without infracting unless it's extreme)

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well tbf it's impossible for the rules to list every rule break scenario possible (especially on here) so we do use our own initiative at times and I know this has been mentioned lots but every infraction has it's own discussion thread and we do post if we agree/disagree with certain infractions then reverse infractions or bans we don't feel were justified, we do make mistakes at times, and they are normally corrected once realised.



Yes well personal insults are against the forum rules Ashley however mods rarely give infractions for things they are personally insulted by unless it's a clear rule break, in fact I've seen mods actually go into the admin section and ask someone else to deal with things if 1. they are taking part in the debate where the rule break is and 2. they don't like infracting for things personally said to them and prefer instead to delete the post (I delete things said about me without infracting unless it's extreme)

Where is this 'Infraction discussion thread' Josy? Have we got access to it?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Where is this 'Infraction discussion thread' Josy? Have we got access to it?

No Kirk, every time an infraction is given out a thread specifically for that infraction (or warning) is automatically created in a part of the admin forum.

It's were the mods and admins discuss things.

We did used to have a private infraction appeals section where only the member in question and the mods could see the thread you made querying an infraction but it was ruined.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

No Kirk, every time an infraction is given out a thread specifically for that infraction (or warning) is automatically created in a part of the admin forum.

It's were the mods and admins discuss things.

We did used to have a private infraction appeals section where only the member in question and the mods could see the thread you made querying an infraction but it was ruined.

How Very Nice

[arista]

Kirk when I get Spanked
I take it.

They are in Charge
and have a wide experience
in dealing will all "Types" of members


Feel The Force

[arista]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

For me they simply don't. If anything they make me more un PC. Your thoughts?

No I stay Rude as ever.


But i do not go back to the place I got Infracted
much more

[lostalex]

infractions come from different mods, and they all have their own set of rules in their own heads. The rules change depending on who is modding at that particular time. There really is no concrete set of rules, you just have to put up with who is on duty at the time.

so no, infractions don't affect how i post because it really has nothing to do with what i actually post, it's just about which mod is online and what kind of mood they are in.

I do miss the old days when you got an infraction you were actually told which mod did it and you were able to challenge it publicly on the forum. Now you aren't told which mod does it, and you have no way to challenge it on the forum, and if you challenge it that mod just gives you another infraction to shut you up.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Josy

No Kirk, every time an infraction is given out a thread specifically for that infraction (or warning) is automatically created in a part of the admin forum.

It's were the mods and admins discuss things.

We did used to have a private infraction appeals section where only the member in question and the mods could see the thread you made querying an infraction but it was ruined.

Thanks Josy.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Kirk when I get Spanked
I take it.

They are in Charge
and have a wide experience
in dealing will all "Types" of members


Feel The Force

You are Most Wise Arista. I totally agree with you, though I have - luckily - never been warned, infracted or banned but if I had, I would also 'take it like a man'.

[lostalex]

that being said, I'd say that I probably deserved about 75% of the infractions i've gotten. But those 25% of infractions that i didn't deserve really burn my balls.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

infractions come from different mods, and they all have their own set of rules in their own heads. The rules change depending on who is modding at that particular time. There really is no concrete set of rules, you just have to put up with who is on duty at the time.

so no, infractions don't affect how i post because it really has nothing to do with what i actually post, it's just about which mod is online and what kind of mood they are in.

I do miss the old days when you got an infraction you were actually told which mod did it and you were able to challenge it publicly on the forum. Now you aren't told which mod does it, and you have no way to challenge it on the forum, and if you challenge it that mod just gives you another infraction to shut you up.

Never, since the day you joined has it worked that way Alex.

And also challenging your infractions on the main forum is against the rules because not only does it cause unnecessary unrest but your infractions are no one else's business, querying them is between you and the mods.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that being said, I'd say that I probably deserved about 75% of the infractions i've gotten. But those 25% of infractions that i didn't deserve really burn my balls.

Could be Translations
not working well for you

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Josy

Never, since the day you joined has it worked that way Alex.

And also challenging your infractions on the main forum is against the rules because not only does it cause unnecessary unrest but your infractions are no one else's business, querying them is between you and the mods.

yes it did Josie, there used to be a public forum where you could challenge the mod decisions, and it absolutely used to say whenI got an infraction it would say which mod had given me the infraction.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yes it did Josie, there used to be a public forum where you could challenge the mod decisions, and it absolutely used to say whenI got an infraction it would say which mod had given me the infraction.

This is all to Complex

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yes it did Josie, there used to be a public forum where you could challenge the mod decisions, and it absolutely used to say whenI got an infraction it would say which mod had given me the infraction.

That was a private forum Alex, only you and the mods could see the thread you made in there. It has never been a thing to publically challenge infractions for the points I mentioned above and for the fact that discussing your infractions on the main forum is against the rules (also for the reasons I posted above)

And the TiBB Staff thing was started before I became a mod and that's before you joined the forum.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Josy

That was a private forum Alex, only you and the mods could see the thread you made in there. It has never been a thing to publically challenge infractions for the points I mentioned above and for the fact that discussing your infractions on the main forum is against the rules (also for the reasons I posted above)

oh, okay. but still there was at least a forum for discussion, and other mods could come to your defense. There was many times i got an infraction, and when i challenged them, they were reversed. But now there is no way to explain yourself and get infractions reversed.

And they absolutely used to post who was giving the infraction in the old days. The actual mod giving the infraction, it was in the PM when you got an infraction you could see who it was that actually issued the infraction.


It was a much more fair system. now there is no way to know who gave the infraction, and it's impossible to discuss the infraction with the other mods and get it reversed if it was unfair.