[kirklancaster]

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[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

I agree with this^^^

Originally Posted by empire

its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

And this^^^

I do however think that religion should be respected, but to me school is school they're there to learn.

I also think there needs to some sort of re-education for immigrants into our country, so that they understand our way of life and that everyone in this country has equal rights and freedom, if they can't abide by our rules then bye bye!

It's almost as if we are bending so far to the left, we're going to meet with the far right!

[DemolitionRed]

I would still defend the right of any woman to decide for herself how she wants to dress, and to learn for herself why her religion requires such things and whether she thinks this is valid.

Banning a garment? Surely that just makes us look like the oppressors?

Regardless of our thoughts on this subject, I don't think 'now' is the right time. Muslims are really feeling the hate at the moment and Cameron appears to be piggybacking on that hate to rush in new rules.

[smudgie]

Stick to the uniform code.
If it's a none Muslim school then it wouldn't normally be part of the uniform.
If on the other band it is a Muslim school then I can't see a problem with it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Stick to the uniform code.
If it's a none Muslim school then it wouldn't normally be part of the uniform.
If on the other band it is a Muslim school then I can't see a problem with it.

[Northern Monkey]

I don't see a need to ban faith schools.I do think though that with the rise in Islamic schools that they do need to be closely monitored to make sure they are providing a balanced view of the world and not preaching hate.

The reason i don't see the need to ban them is that i went to a C of E school.

We were taught zero religion at all during lesson time apart from RE of course in which we learned about many religions.We even celebrated Diwali and other religious festivals to learn about different traditions.

The only religious things we did were the odd church visit at Harvest and morning assembly.
During my whole time there i did'nt believe in religion and never have since.It had no effect on me other than educated me.It was a very good school full of normal kids of differing faiths.
So i can say that i had a good experience and rounded education in a faith school.

As for the veil.I would let any public space such as shops choose whether they ban the veil and i would ban it from teaching,banks,airports,courts or anywhere where it is a security risk.

[AnnieK]

My son goes to a C of E school. Nothing to do with religion (he is not christened although I am, I decided to let him choose when he is old enough), the school just happened to have the best OFSTED results in the area I live and is close to where we live so in time he will be able to walk there himself and has a good circle of friends close by. Although its a faith school and he is only in reception, he has already been taught about other cultures, faiths and beliefs and so is getting a pretty rounded idea of other faiths.

[DemolitionRed]

Faith schools have to teach the full curriculum but that doesn't mean they always do.

Stephen Pollard writes:
'"We have reported so regularly on these schools that do not teach science, speak entirely in Yiddish and operate in buildings that do not conform to basic health and safety standards (and are often used illegally without planning permission) that I sometimes worry we bore our readers with yet more examples".

He continues: "One former pupil is quoted in the documentary as saying that the schools try to ensure that boys lack any knowledge which might enable them to leave their strictly Orthodox community: "I was told terrible things about non-Jews. In order to keep such a vast number of people enclosed, they are indoctrinating from a very young age that everything outside is bad and evil. We didn't come out with anything we could use in daily life or in the future."
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/st...imple-as-that/

Of course we have illegal Muslim schools too but its doubtful we have illegal Christian schools.

[Anaesthesia]

But back OT, really get out of here with burqas. This is the UK, feel free to wear them in a Muslim school, don't expect to wear them in an English school. Because we are still English, and we do have our own values which you should abide by, thank you.

Just out of interest, the Holy Joes from my local town (I was the grammar school nerd) had quite a bad reputation for being naughty. Even though they were apparently taught that they oughtn't sit on a boy's lap without a Yellow Pages cushion.

[Kizzy]

There isn't the money in philosophy there is in religion, or the appropriate level of social control.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There isn't the money in philosophy there is in religion, or the appropriate level of social control.