[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

People forgetting that the reason that situation happened in the first place was because he decided to be a coward and run to the garden to bitch about her (very 'mature' and 'gentleman-like'), instead of actually discussing his problem with her to her face.
Which by the way, he admitted to Tiffany, that that's exactly what he should have done
Funny the things we chose not to see isn't it

You are so perceptive and insightful my son.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

People forgetting that the reason that situation happened in the first place was because he decided to be a coward and run to the garden to bitch about her (very 'mature' and 'gentleman-like'), instead of actually discussing his problem with her to her face.
Which by the way, he admitted to Tiffany, that that's exactly what he should have done
Funny the things we chose not to see isn't it

No we are not forgetting that at all, we don't all do the right thing when we are in the middle of something, his instinct was to remove himself from the situation, when he reflected on it, he quite rightly came to the conclusion that he should have been direct with her, maybe the way she flew at him when he was trying to reason with her during Davidgate was on his mind and He didn't want a repeat performance, Tiffany didn't cover herself in glory backtracking and saying she thought of him as a brother she has been in camera more than once saying she would go there......

[Amy Jade]

Also he's clearly not that much of a gentleman as he beat up his ex. No man who does that deserves to be be called a gentleman.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Also he's clearly not that much of a gentleman as he beat up his ex. No man who does that deserves to be be called a gentleman.

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by susie q

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by susie q

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

Way to go Susie

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by susie q

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

Tiffanys career is built around violence, her fans were gagging for her to do the same in BB ,but condemn Darren for claiming he's violent ...couldnt make it up

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Tiffanys career is built around violence, her fans were gagging for her to do the same in BB ,but condemn Darren for claiming he's violent ...couldnt make it up

..and around around we go....

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Tiffanys career is built around violence, her fans were gagging for her to do the same in BB ,but condemn Darren for claiming he's violent ...couldnt make it up

You are being a hypocrite here, not long ago you were posting videos of Tiffany asking where the 'feisty woman' was and trying to say what a dissapointment she was. Now because it fits your agenda you keep attacking her fans and say we wanted her in there to fight or something...you need to prove that, where have any Tiffany fans on here even insinuated she should be physically attacking other housemates?

You won't reply because once again it's a baseless accusation you make up in your head to try and make her fans on here look like thugs.

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by susie q

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

I don't think anything outside of the house should be a factor in these things but....people cant stop bringing it up on both sides, this board turned uglier than normal this year

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by susie q

This is getting so boring now.
The double standards are also boring, the only videos that I can find about Tiffany, include her hitting people or threatening violence. Her news headlines are lot more recent than Darrens. For me it is wrong to condemn the behaviour of one housemate whilst condoning the same behaviour in another.
Besides which people do sometimes deserve a 2nd chance, Darren has shown genuine remorse for his behaviour, and changed his lifestyle.
I would also say the same for Tiffany, if she deserved it.

Can you point out where I have 'condoned' Tiffany being violent or are you just grasping at straws to try and make a point and justify him beating up his ex because he's your favourite?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Can you point out where I have 'condoned' Tiffany being violent or are you just grasping at straws to try and make a point and justify him beating up his ex because he's your favourite?

You alongside your sidekicks were frothing at the mouth on launch night, claiming your hero was going to be the house bitch, she was going to wipe the floor with everyone

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You alongside your sidekicks were frothing at the mouth on launch night, claiming your hero was going to be the house bitch, she was going to wipe the floor with everyone

She's done that, that's why Darren ran after her to apologize last night, they are putty in her hands.

& why do you insist on insulting her fans?

[susie q]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Can you point out where I have 'condoned' Tiffany being violent or are you just grasping at straws to try and make a point and justify him beating up his ex because he's your favourite?

Actually Johns my favourite, but I am judging people on their behaviour in the house. I do not see the need to constantly bring up Darrens past, we all know about it anyway. I have yet to see you criticise Tiffanys past,(if you truly believe in fairness you should do) and having looked her up theres plenty of scope, a lot more recent than Darrens to. She may be your favourite, but she really is no saint so stop trying to sweep her recent violent past under the caarpet. We are all entitled to support who we like, deal with it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by susie q

Actually Johns my favourite, but I am judging people on their behaviour in the house. I do not see the need to constantly bring up Darrens past, we all know about it anyway. I have yet to see you criticise Tiffanys past,(if you truly believe in fairness you should do) and having looked her up theres plenty of scope, a lot more recent than Darrens to. She may be your favourite, but she really is no saint so stop trying to sweep her recent violent past under the caarpet. We are all entitled to support who we like, deal with it.

Aren't you just massively contradicting yourself though in one moment saying I should judge Tiffany's violent past but not judge Darren's?

[hot2go]

Darren was just playing a very clever game and good luck to him....he made one of his biggest opponents look unreasonable and immature....whilst at the same time coming across himself as understanding and generous.....he will have secured a large number of female viewers at a crucial time when Tiffany is actually throwing it all away....clever....this last few days is always where we see the wheat separated from the chaff.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Darren was just playing a very clever game and good luck to him....he made one of his biggest opponents look unreasonable and immature....whilst at the same time coming across himself as understanding and generous.....he will have secured a large number of female viewers at a crucial time when Tiffany is actually throwing it all away....clever....this last few days is always where we see the wheat separated from the chaff.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Darren was just playing a very clever game and good luck to him....he made one of his biggest opponents look unreasonable and immature....whilst at the same time coming across himself as understanding and generous.....he will have secured a large number of female viewers at a crucial time when Tiffany is actually throwing it all away....clever....this last few days is always where we see the wheat separated from the chaff.

We'll see how clever his game is when we see who places higher between them two

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We'll see how clever his game is when we see who places higher between them two

Im in no doubt Tiffany will win, for some strange reason people like slappers ,who show themselves up on national tv

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im in no doubt Tiffany will win, for some strange reason people like slappers ,who show themselves up on national tv

Steph?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Steph?

No,Steph actually got a man in BB ,and he loves her, she's not thrown herself at everything with a pulse for camera time

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im in no doubt Tiffany will win, for some strange reason people like slappers ,who show themselves up on national tv

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Fricking hill arious!!!

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We'll see how clever his game is when we see who places higher between them two

I don't think where they end up being placed is the best way to measure how well they've done tbh...I think where they started from compared to where they end up is a more realistic reflection of their achievements ...
For Darren Day to come in sixth place with his past reputation and his small social media presence is a far bigger achievement than for Scotty to come second when he clearly has that huge following already.
For any of the actors to make the final is a monster achievement which makes them all winners ......for any of the reality stars to NOT WIN is only a failure and makes them losers.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No,Steph actually got a man in BB ,and he loves her, she's not thrown herself at everything with a pulse for camera time

But she already had a man who loved her lol

Originally Posted by hot2go

I don't think where they end up being placed is the best way to measure how well they've done tbh...I think where they started from compared to where they end up is a more realistic reflection of their achievements ...
For Darren Day to come in sixth place with his past reputation and his small social media presence is a far bigger achievement than for Scotty to come second when he clearly has that huge following already.
For any of the actors to make the final is a monster achievement which makes them all winners ......for any of the reality stars to NOT WIN is only a failure and makes them losers.

I do