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Crimson Dynamo · 11-02-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

She illuminatified Chris Martin...There's the real issue!

Seriously though I love socially and politically charged music, it's a form of artistic expression and therefore as a medium to express your personal beliefs it's totally valid.

Fine if you are Billy Brag penning a politically charged song but not if you were paid to do one thing and you hijack it for your own personal feelings

So if Chris Martin had used his spot to say that Gay Marriage was wrong and should be outlawed, would that be ok too?

Pretty sure Dezzy would not make a fanboy thread about that?

Kizzy · 11-02-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Fine if you are Billy Brag penning a politically charged song but not if you were paid to do one thing and you hijack it for your own personal feelings

So if Chris Martin had used his spot to say that Gay Marriage was wrong and should be outlawed, would that be ok too?

Pretty sure Dezzy would not make a fanboy thread about that?

Over time lots of artists have chosen to air views to a large audience, if Chris had chosen to do that then yes it would be totally fine by me, not that I believe that's a realistic scenario.
What dezzy would or wouldn't do is of no concern to me is it?

Tom4784 · 11-02-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Fine if you are Billy Brag penning a politically charged song but not if you were paid to do one thing and you hijack it for your own personal feelings

So if Chris Martin had used his spot to say that Gay Marriage was wrong and should be outlawed, would that be ok too?

Pretty sure Dezzy would not make a fanboy thread about that?

I wouldn't have agreed with it but I wouldn't have tried to shut him down from having that opinion or expressing it.

Crimson Dynamo · 11-02-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I wouldn't have agreed with it but I wouldn't have tried to shut him down from having that opinion or expressing it.

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

Kizzy · 11-02-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

Are you basing this supposition on your hypothetical scenario?
Curiouser and curiouser.

Tom4784 · 11-02-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

YOu would have been the first to make a thread saying he should have been shut down and expressing disgust and that he should have stuck to his routine etc

Lies.

My approach has always been that everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone is free to comment on that opinion.

It just goes to show how weak your argument is that you must resort to outright lies to try to score points.

iRyan · 11-02-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she was the half time fluff at a football match, serious issue my arse

she was there to sing. if its a serious issue then take it up with people who can make change and not make some half baked showbiz point

her awful songs are the only thing that make me uncomfortable

You have a sad way of amusing yourself.

Music is art and art is expression. Whether it's political or not - the point is to express. She's not just some performing puppet. She made reference to one of the most relevant and important social issues here in America right now. The Super Bowl is the highest rated television event of the year, it represents American culture - and I think it's a brilliant platform for "political" statements. And to state the blatantly obvious, there is nothing outrageous about her performance, song, or video. The only ones who are outraged are racists, the self-perpetuating victims of their own hate.

iRyan · 11-02-2016, 12:05 PM

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"I thought it was really outrageous that she used it as a platform to attack police officers who are the people who protect her and protect us, and keep us alive," he told Fox News.

Police officers are here to protect white, wealthy, and privileged people.

Crimson Dynamo · 11-02-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan

Police officers are here to protect white, wealthy, and privileged people.

and there you show your hand for all to see

Tom4784 · 11-02-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and there you show your hand for all to see

Yet you can't offer up anything in the form of a counter argument because you know he's right.

If a white child is ever killed by the police in America, the officers who did it would be strung up for it. If a black child is killed than the media will do everything that can to blame the victim by dragging his name through the mud.

America has more sympathy for it's white mass shooters than it does for black victims of police brutality.

Z · 11-02-2016, 03:11 PM

I don't take issue with her making a point about race and racism or choosing to perform it at the Superbowl, I take issue with the song not being very good. But I don't suppose that's the point of the song, it's a political statement, not a pop song. Good for her expressing those views, she's arguably the most visible and important black woman in the world. As a white man, I don't think this song is made for people like me and I think from the point of view of her music career, it's a bit of an odd release strategy for her new album, it creates a problem where music made by a black woman for black women (black people in general) is pushed as the lead single, so she's going to have fans of all races singing this song back at her and creating yet more of these ****ing irritating social justice warrior issues... I won't be getting in Formation but I appreciate what she's trying to do, I guess.