[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Wasn't 2011 BB12?

At least BB11 had big characters like Ben, Govan, Sunshine, Shabby, John James, and Josie, love them or hate them they all offered something to the series.

BB12 had Aaron that lasted long enough to contribute anything to the series, but that was about it.

I hated BB11 with a passion, those HMs you listed were just meh to me, I was totally indifferent to them

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Mokka

But if there is room for a new BB franchise in Canada to start in the last 4 years... with civilians... and be successful, then why can't a UK civilian series be successful again.

UK producers just need to start taking notes on what is working in other BB markets at their annual BB convention imo.

hmmm but that would require our producers to know how to write, i'm not sure i have that level of confidence in them and their abilities

[Alf]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I LOATHE this response.

Ive loved BB since the beginning so don't use that cliched/cookie cutter come back on me

Why? You stated you want to see the back of it, so don't watch.

Just because you want to see the back of it doesn't mean it should be scrapped, should we all miss out just because you've had enough?

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Or they could just make it good again by having entertaining housemates, not relying on shįt tasks for dramz, and not meddling with nominations every single week.

NOT meddling in nominations and NOT having twists will not fix it.

It will send it back to the dark ages and literally only the hardcore fans would watch. It would lose a lot of viewers

[Rob!]

BB14 was an amazing series. And tbh there is still a lot of good in the civilian series except that the majority of viewers want a different thing out of it than the hardcores do.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Wasn't 2011 BB12?

At least BB11 had big characters like Ben, Govan, Sunshine, Shabby, John James, and Josie, love them or hate them they all offered something to the series.

BB12 had Aaron that lasted long enough to contribute anything to the series, but that was about it.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

NOT meddling in nominations and NOT having twists will not fix it.

It will send it back to the dark ages and literally only the hardcore fans would watch. It would lose a lot of viewers

Welp who said anything about going back to the dark ages

I don't mind nominations meddling and twists but when it's every single week and quite clearly rigged it just puts off viewers as we have seen due to the 1million watching now compared to 6million watching in the past.

Plus if they actually picked good housemates they wouldn't have to rely on twists every week to get entertainment

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I hated BB11 with a passion, those HMs you listed were just meh to me, I was totally indifferent to them

Oh I understand as I really disliked John James and Shabby in particular.

But nothing will be worse than a combined lineup that has Louise, Tom, Faye, Jemma, and Jay in there.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by RichardG

hmmm but that would require our producers to know how to write, i'm not sure i have that level of confidence in them and their abilities

Yeah didn't they spell the Diary Room as the Dairy Room during BB14 on Facebook?

[Jason.]

BB17 will make or break BB. They just need a production team overhaul. If BB17 is as bad as BB15/16, then they should just put the show out of its misery, because it's currently at a franchise low atm.

BB13/14 were two brilliant series and like someone else said, they only aired a few years back, so I don't see why they can't produce a decent series in 2016. Especially given the same production team (I think) have managed to produce a decent/fantastic CBB series consistently over the last two years.

[joeysteele]

I like both series, BB and CBB, so I would want them both sustained.

All that is really wrong with BB series now for me is the endless twists and far too much BB interference in events.
I still like to learn about the housemates generally.

[T*]

Or don't

[jyunga]

I wish they'd stop forcing story lines in civilian and just let the game play out without twists.

[Josy]

What a horrendous idea

[BBUKAUSFAN]

If you don't like it don't watch it.
I'm Happy to have both civilian and celebrity, the show is and will always be amazing to me no matter format changed, twists, dire housemates. Its a show that I've grown up watching and I'm not ready to let go yet.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jason.

BB17 will make or break BB. They just need a production team overhaul. If BB17 is as bad as BB15/16, then they should just put the show out of its misery, because it's currently at a franchise low atm.

BB13/14 were two brilliant series and like someone else said, they only aired a few years back, so I don't see why they can't produce a decent series in 2016. Especially given the same production team (I think) have managed to produce a decent/fantastic CBB series consistently over the last two years.

Even CBB17 was **** though as it was just the Stephanie and Gemma show.

[Strictly Jake]

As I have started reading Ben eltons dead famous, please no one tell me what happens, I really really really want a back to basics series