[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Yeah, anyone can get attacked anywhere, that's not the point. I'm pretty sure a person who has been raped by a male or a female, isnt going to feel comfortable going to the toilets with that gender in there too. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to think 'ah well its okay cause i can get raped anywhere, anyway', they're going to do anything they can to try and avoid contact with that gender, and gender neutral toilets are the last place they'd want to go.

LT makes a good point about drunk men at football games and the likes. I'd hate the thought of having to share a bathroom with drunk men. I might be labelled sexist, but I don't care. People shouldnt have to explain why they would feel uncomfortable with it. It doesnt make them sexist or transphobic. Some people will just never be comfortable with it and we should hate on them for it.

So then like Greg said, what are men who've been raped by other men supposed to do? Or women raped by women? Must they use the toilet assigned to their gender and we'll just forget about the fact they were raped because oh well they're the minority? I'm pretty sure a rape victim will definitely be thinking they can be raped anywhere actually, I'm pretty sure it would be playing on their mind for most of their life, toilet, alleyway, park, road, house, wherever. Do we start segregating the sexes in all of these places too? And again what about those who were raped by a member of the same sex? How do you resolve that problem?

You would be sharing a bathroom with drunk men and women, you wouldn't be the only woman alone. Men aren't all predatory rapists or thugs waiting to attack you, and if you were in a bathroom with multiple men and multiple women the chances of anything happening to anyone fall dramatically.

You are jumping to conclusions in saying anyone's been labelled sexist or transphobic, until someone makes any comments of that ilk they won't be. The only reason people feel uncomfortable with it is because they've been brought up using the divided system and the concept of sharing bathrooms is an alien one, that's all. It doesn't mean it's a terrible idea, just that you're not used to it. But the pros of mixing bathrooms universally far outweigh the 'well I don't want to have a piss with a bunch of dirty men!' argument.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Yeah I wonder why rape victims would feel uncomfortable getting their pants down in an area with the gender who raped them

So men who have been raped by men should go into women's bathrooms? Of course not. It would be easier just to have bathroom for everyone.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Greg!

So men who have been raped by men should go into women's bathrooms? Of course not. It would be easier just to have bathroom for everyone.

No... obviously not. But I wouldn't expect you to understand anyway

[Kizzy]

Public toilets attract creeps at the best of times so no, I don't really like them I have used them but prefer not to.

[Jordan.]

Yes if it was the quickest way but it's not something I'd want to become a norm :sorry:

[Daniel-X]

We have them at school and I have no issue going in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

nothing wrong with the present system so no i would not if there was a mens loo around

[Crimson Dynamo]

also men who sit down to pee should be beaten with fork handles

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

also men who sit down to pee should be beaten with fork handles

Sounds like a 2 Ronnies sketch:

"NAW.... Not FOUR CANDLES - FORK HANDLES.... For LeatherTrumpet to beat men who sit down to pee with."

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

also men who sit down to pee should be beaten with fork handles

Erm how am I supposed to play Yahtzee standing up? #LogicBlown

[Shaun]

If I need the toilet I need the toilet. Couldn't give a rat's ass who else is in the next cubicle.

[Natalie.]

Not really, I'd feel uncomfortable

[T*]

(ngl i predicted the poll results)

[Northern Monkey]

What?No men sit down to pee.That must be some kind of urban myth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

What?No men sit down to pee.That must be some kind of urban myth.

i have a feeling marsh does it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i have a feeling marsh does it

Only in the middle of the night when I'm tired.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes I can see it really working at say football matches and in clubs where men are drunk

[T*]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes I can see it really working at say football matches and in clubs where men are drunk

because every man wants to rape somebody...ah
okay

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom*

because every man wants to rape somebody...ah
okay

what are you on about, I am referring to the OP not the rapist comment

[Cal.]

I wasn't aware wanting to use a public toilet and being a man automatically made you a rapist,

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

I wasn't aware wanting to use a public toilet and being a man automatically made you a rapist,

Yep! And men must stand there and 'take it like a man' if they're being assaulted by a member of the poor, vulnerable and weak female species

Welcome to the world of LeatherTrumpet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yep! And men must stand there and 'take it like a man' if they're being assaulted by a member of the poor, vulnerable and weak female species

Welcome to the world of LeatherTrumpet

that was Ninas comment not mine

and why dont you just walk away unless you actually want to hit a woman Jack?

[T*]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and why dont you just walk away unless you actually want to hit a woman Jack?

****ing hell

yes jack, just walk away from the woman who is threatening you with a knife/gun/etc.
You wouldn't want to hit a delicate flower now would you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom*

****ing hell

yes jack, just walk away from the woman who is threatening you with a knife/gun/etc.
You wouldn't want to hit a delicate flower now would you?

a knife and a gun

what on earth are you on about?

Are you now telling Jack to try and take on a woman with a deadly weapon so he can feel that he is not sexist?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that was Ninas comment not mine

and why dont you just walk away unless you actually want to hit a woman Jack?

And if a woman or several women are restraining you on the floor, kicking and punching you? How do you just 'walk away' then? If you hit someone, expect them to retaliate. Trying to make out women who are capable of punching others are this weak and vulnerable species which must be protected at all costs is patronising and condescending as ****