[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What counts him out for this then over other people who have gotten them? How many pensioners in the UK have actually got stabbed while trying to save someone, there surely can't be loads.....or any even this year besides him?

You know what? Give it to him. Why not? Give everyone one.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know what? Give it to him. Why not? Give everyone one.

Even tories?...Urgh no they can't have one.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know what? Give it to him. Why not? Give everyone one.

:/ I'm just asking a question Livia, what do you mean by "give everyone one" you say it like what he did was nothing and people do s**t like that everyday

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I don't really follow your politics but i would have thought the fact that he's 77 years old and was injured himself was more the reason people are suggesting it? It was an amazing act of bravery for such an old man imo.

Exactly he got stabbed too,that was not the case for those in the Lee Rigby atrocity.

This man at 77 was hospitalised and I would be calling for him to get recognised for his bravery no matter what party the MP came from.

This man showed amazing courage and very nearly got killed himself.
Politics should not come into this murder, no matter some peoples likely prejudices.
This was an attack on an MP and in fact democracy.

This elderly man tried to stand up against that,of course he should get a top award for his efforts.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly he got stabbed too,that was not the case for those in the Lee Rigby atrocity.

This man at 77 was hospitalised and I would be calling for him to get recognised for his bravery no matter what party the MP came from.

This man showed amazing courage and very nearly got killed himself.
Politics should not come into this murder, no matter some peoples likely prejudices.
This was an attack on an MP and in fact democracy.

This elderly man tried to stand up against that,of course he should get a top award for his efforts.

I 100% agree Joey, whom ever the victim was he deserves an honour for his selfless efforts.

[Cherie]

I think he should be recognised in some way yes

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

:/ I'm just asking a question Livia, what do you mean by "give everyone one" you say it like what he did was nothing and people do s**t like that everyday

I get where Livia is coming from.
What this man did was heroic, nobody is disputing that but the 52 year old woman who saved my sisters life was just as heroic.

She was taken to Scotland and given a bravery award and compensated for her injuries (he severed through the tendons in her right arm.) but she didn't get the George Cross or even the George Medal. If he gets one then she should get one too.

[DemolitionRed]

Nobody is saying he shouldn't be honoured. He will be honoured and he will be heavily compensated for his injuries.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I get where Livia is coming from.
What this man did was heroic, nobody is disputing that but the 52 year old woman who saved my sisters life was just as heroic.

She was taken to Scotland and given a bravery award and compensated for her injuries (he severed through the tendons in her right arm.) but she didn't get the George Cross or even the George Medal. If he gets one then she should get one too.

It's not a competition DR, and you have a very unlucky family

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's not a competition DR, and you have a very unlucky family

What Cherie said

Jeez there's so much begrudgery around

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I get where Livia is coming from.
What this man did was heroic, nobody is disputing that but the 52 year old woman who saved my sisters life was just as heroic.

She was taken to Scotland and given a bravery award and compensated for her injuries (he severed through the tendons in her right arm.) but she didn't get the George Cross or even the George Medal. If he gets one then she should get one too.

Wow that's lovely, she's lucky to have someone put themselves on the line for her she thoroughly deserved her award, was it through the 'pride of Britain'?

You rarely hear of people facing up to assailants with guns and/or knives though do you?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I get where Livia is coming from.
What this man did was heroic, nobody is disputing that but the 52 year old woman who saved my sisters life was just as heroic.

She was taken to Scotland and given a bravery award and compensated for her injuries (he severed through the tendons in her right arm.) but she didn't get the George Cross or even the George Medal. If he gets one then she should get one too.

Of course people who do great things for general citizens should be recognised for that effort.

A lot of knighthoods and Dame titles are throw at people just for entertainment,many street singers sing better than a lot in the charts.

However,this is a man almost 80 for goodness sake,who went to the aid of a woman who was being stabbed and then also shot,being brutally murdered,he then got stabbed himself in the abdomen.

I don't see where anyone is coming from at all that would deny or nitpick at this man being given a really high recognition for his brave and unselfish effort.

Very sadly in the UK the honours system stinks as to those who get them. Nurses and Doctors for instance,save lives every day but that's classed as their work.
A footballer can score loads of goals and get a Knighthood, bonkers.

I would like to see anyone who acts as heroic and bravely as this 77 year old man did get a top medal for his bravery,including the person you mentioned.

It really mystifies and indeed saddens me anyone would even want to appear to, in any way, begrudge him getting a top medal.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wow that's lovely, she's lucky to have someone put themselves on the line for her she thoroughly deserved her award, was it through the 'pride of Britain'?

You rarely hear of people facing up to assailants with guns and/or knives though do you?

Not that lucky she was taken to Scotland for her award no wonder people don't intervene

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not that lucky she was taken to Scotland for her award no wonder people don't intervene

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's not a competition DR, and you have a very unlucky family

I told you lot about my sisters attack when I first joined this group. She only had the one attack but I guess your insinuating that I'm making **** up?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Of course people who do great things for general citizens should be recognised for that effort.

A lot of knighthoods and Dame titles are throw at people just for entertainment,many street singers sing better than a lot in the charts.

However,this is a man almost 80 for goodness sake,who went to the aid of a woman who was being stabbed and then also shot,being brutally murdered,he then got stabbed himself in the abdomen.

I don't see where anyone is coming from at all that would deny or nitpick at this man being given a really high recognition for his brave and unselfish effort.

Very sadly in the UK the honours system stinks as to those who get them. Nurses and Doctors for instance,save lives every day but that's classed as their work.
A footballer can score loads of goals and get a Knighthood, bonkers.

I would like to see anyone who acts as heroic and bravely as this 77 year old man did get a top medal for his bravery,including the person you mentioned.

It really mystifies and indeed saddens me anyone would even want to appear to, in any way, begrudge him getting a top medal.

Exactly Joey. I don't get this at all

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I told you lot about my sisters attack when I first joined this group. She only had the one attack but I guess your insinuating that I'm making **** up?

Don't you think you have an unlucky streak? You hubby was caught in crossfire (I think), you recently had a needle stick injury, your sister has had something awful happen to her (I don't know what) so Im just stating the obvious not insinuating anything tyvm

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wow that's lovely, she's lucky to have someone put themselves on the line for her she thoroughly deserved her award, was it through the 'pride of Britain'?

You rarely hear of people facing up to assailants with guns and/or knives though do you?

She was an ex bouncer. A big black Amazon woman you wouldn't mess with haha. She didn't know my sister at the time other than living in the same neighbourhood but she's now godmother to her youngest daughter and my sister and her are really close.

This happened in Leeds Kizzy, and it made the local evening post a couple of times but it didn't end up in the national papers. It should of done but then perhaps people save others more often than we know.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't you think you have an unlucky streak? You hubby was caught in crossfire (I think), you recently had a needle stick injury, your sister has had something awful happen to her (I don't know what) so Im just stating the obvious not insinuating anything tyvm

Oh and don't forget my cancer

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not that lucky she was taken to Scotland for her award no wonder people don't intervene

Lord I WISH I'd wrote that. A CLASSIC.

I ought to explain that I laughed out loud at Cherie's 'dig' at Scotland only, and that my post here is not any kind of comment on any other discussion or debate on this thread.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

She was an ex bouncer. A big black Amazon woman you wouldn't mess with haha. She didn't know my sister at the time other than living in the same neighbourhood but she's now godmother to her youngest daughter and my sister and her are really close.

This happened in Leeds Kizzy, and it made the local evening post a couple of times but it didn't end up in the national papers. It should of done but then perhaps people save others more often than we know.

Oh my gosh it had to be Leeds ...*cringe*
Shame it doesn't even make the nationals when it happens, how sad
So pleased they have a lasting friendship from it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh and don't forget my cancer

I didn't want to mention it, hope you are doing okay x

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

:/ I'm just asking a question Livia, what do you mean by "give everyone one" you say it like what he did was nothing and people do s**t like that everyday

I've already said in this thread that what he did was heroic and that he should be recognised in some way.

[the truth]

strange how none of these politicians have mentioned bernard in the last few days?
it was his 78th birthday today and he was released from hospital yet not a camera or a polirician in sight? clearly he didnt serve their pro eu agenda

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about the two women who tried to talk down the people who murdered Lee Rigby? Or do people only deserve a medal if it's an MP involved?

And how many people backing the awarding of the GM would be so happy to see it given to someone who'd saved an MP from another party? George Osborne, for instance?

They hardly talked them down. According to eye witnesses the killers approached lots of bystanders and had conversations with them when they had blood over their hands rather after the fact which seemed rather surreal of the murderer to slaughter someone then get chatty with shocked passers by. Not sure it was specially heroic on behalf the people they spoke to. Just something that was inflated by the press.

And yes I think Bernard Kenny should definitely get some sort of bravery award.