[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, that was a passing comment, not my main point but still true in my opinion based on countless historic posts on this forum.

What I actually mean, for anyone that's still struggling... Soldiers do acts of bravery in a battle zone regularly, selfless acts that put their own lives at risk. They don't all get the Victoria Cross. And while this man is undoubtedly a hero and should be recognised publically in some way, I don't believe the George Medal is suitable in this case.

What do you have that could be comparable to this to base that spiteful presumption on?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What do you have that could be comparable to this to base that spiteful presumption on?

You can stop now, Kizzy. I've made myself perfectly clear on this thread. I made a simple statement, my own opinion, and I've had to explain myself over and over and bloody over. I have no intention of saying the same thing again while you pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh is that what she meant?... That's a horrible thing to presume, and I'd hope very wrong.

Even the vast majority of Pilots, Sailors and Soldiers I doubt would not begrudge this man that honour,I dare bet money on that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I totally think he deserves an award. 77 is no age to be fighting off a criminal/murderer. He's a hero, there's no other way to put it. But I do agree with Livia when she says if it was a Torie who was murdered, there would be no where near as much fuss. Oh well, give the man an award for his bravery anyway.

If it had been a Conservative, UKIP in fact any MP,I would still have been one for certain who would have expressed the same horror and disgust.

I would certainly too still be calling for any 77 year old man who went to try to help and got stabbed himself, to be given one of the highest awards for doing so.
I'd never even dream of bringing politics into it as to what party the MP was from, my disgust was at the senseless brutal murder of that MP who was another human being.

I think you and others may well have been massively surprised at the response from others,(no need to pre-judge people),even had it been a Conservative or any other MP, because most people wouldn't even think on those lines at the news of such a brutal and cruel end to anyone's life.

I would not for sure,and certainly will not either, want to qualify what award he should get either,for me none is too great in fact.
Also probably the gentleman himself is not even thinking he warrants one himself.

Even less likely would he want any big honour, if he came across people on party lines begrudging him certain ones.
Sick, it is bad enough someone lost their young life so cruelly.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If it had been a Conservative, UKIP in fact any MP,I would still have been one for certain who would have expressed the same horror and disgust.

I would certainly too still be calling for any 77 year old man who went to try to help and got stabbed himself, to be given one of the highest awards for doing so.
I'd never even dream of bringing politics into it as to what party the MP was from, my disgust was at the senseless brutal murder of that MP who was another human being.

I think you and others may well have been massively surprised at the response from others,(no need to pre-judge people),even had it been a Conservative or any other MP, because most people wouldn't even think on those lines at the news of such a brutal and cruel end to anyone's life.

I would not for sure,and certainly will not either, want to qualify what award he should get either,for me none is too great in fact.
Also probably the gentleman himself is not even thinking he warrants one himself.

Even less likely would he want any big honour, if he came across people on party lines begrudging him certain ones.
Sick, it is bad enough someone lost their young life so cruelly.

I don't doubt you you for a second, Joey. I know you'd care just as much, no matter who it was. I just know a fair few amount of people who are using this death for their own political agendas and wouldn't give a **** about this if it were someone of a party they despised.

[Niamh.]

seriously can't believe that there is arguments breaking out on a thread about something so well intentioned

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

seriously can't believe that there is arguments breaking out on a thread about something so well intentioned

I agree Niamh, and the great sad irony is - that apart from the type of medal - NO ONE is actually disagreeing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree Niamh, and the great sad irony is - that apart from the type of medal - NO ONE is actually disagreeing.

Who really gives a s**t about the type of medal ffs

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

seriously can't believe that there is arguments breaking out on a thread about something so well intentioned

Sorry Niamh, I will get off this thread now, I worked half a day with Jo last year in her election campaign and she made a bigger good impression on me than many people who have been in my life for years.

For me however any honour to this man I would support but if he gets the one called for in the opening post of this thread, then for me it is well and truly deserved, and should not be conditional in any way.
No more arguments from me, my apologies again.