[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

... Every other word the person he's talking to say.

For some reason viewers who - like Andy - think they're more intelligent than they are, seem to like this guy. But he never stops showing what a condescending prick he is.

You're having a laugh. Andy is calm and reasonable while the others yell and screech so he can't get a word in edge ways. But you already know that.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

You're having a laugh. Andy is calm and reasonable while the others yell and screech so he can't get a word in edge ways. But you already know that.

He's not calm and reasonable at all. He's snide and passive aggressive and knows how to wind the others up before than playing the victim.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He's not calm and reasonable at all. He's snide and passive aggressive and knows how to wind the others up before than playing the victim.

Indeed.

[vesavius]

Being intelligent is fine, of course, but it's what other traits you surround that intelligence with that counts. If you use your intelligence to be a judgmental **** stirrer, then of course that's not a good thing.

Is Andy condescending, smug, patronising, and all the rest?

Well, yeah, of course he is.

[Vicky.]

Don't really see why he should listen to someone insulting him and saying the same thing 3 times in a row?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

... Every other word the person he's talking to say.

For some reason viewers who - like Andy - think they're more intelligent than they are, seem to like this guy. But he never stops showing what a condescending prick he is.

I'm an Andy fan and I don't think I'm more intelligent, I know I'm intelligent, more than some not as much as others, but I don't think anything, I know myself.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm an Andy fan and I don't think I'm more intelligent, I know I'm intelligent, more than some not as much as others, but I don't think anything, I know myself.

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.

b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble

Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.

c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable

*sighs*

No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

[Yaki da]

Long suffering. LOL

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jan S

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

Nothing to do with it. No one has a problem with intelligent housemates. They have a problem with pompous self righteous pricks.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

the tv producers are to blame for exploiting people like him to make money, paying them as celebrities for a limited shelf-life after which they get discarded and spend the rest of their lives chasing tv appearances and cultivating substance abuse/emotional/psychological issues they should be celebrating people who've achieved something - whether it's becoming a doctor, an astronaut, an author, a scentist, an athlete - rather than just someone on tv because they've hair extensions, false boobs, fake tans, and will do anything for tv exposure and regular trips to sugar hut.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by hot2go

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

..wow, as much as Andy should be proud of his academic acheivements..(whatever they all are..)..I really don't see those lack of academic achievements as any measure of 'failure' in anyone.../they say nothing whatsoever about a person and Lateysha for instance has just as much reason to feel a similar pride to Andy...

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..wow, as much as Andy should be proud of his academic acheivements..(whatever they all are..)..I really don't see those lack of academic achievements as any measure of 'failure' in anyone.../they say nothing whatsoever about a person and Lateysha for instance has just as much reason to feel a similar pride to Andy...

Read my post again. .. I said Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour towards him, not by their position in life...Its THEY who judge Andy by his position in life ... He only measures them by how they treat others, by their lack of self discipline and by the pride they take in being immature and unintelligent. That's where they have failed in comparison to Andy. You are assuming it's about his academic achievements just like they do. Every situation in the house that has made Andy respected on the outside people like Lateysha and Sam have failed by behaving the exact opposite. That's their choices but when those choices blow up in their faces they blame other people for it in this case Andy.

[Beso]

Andy got a taste of his own gameplan tonight, plant the seed and make it look like you are being a friend.

[azi]

He's just stubborn and think he's always right and smarter than everyone else.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by azi

He's just stubborn and think he's always right and smarter than everyone else.

And likes letting them feel that, which he knows full well they will react angrily to.

[joeysteele]

He likely ends up talking over them after listening a while but realising they are talking nonsense to him near all the time.
Why should he be bothered with or respect anyone doing that.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He likely ends up talking over them after listening a while but realising they are talking nonsense to him near all the time.
Why should he be bothered with or respect anyone doing that.

Yes Joey, you can sense that he's so frustrated at being misunderstood and criticised yet he tries so hard to keep his cool and his dignity - and he does an amazing job of it.
When you look at Laytesha and Chelsea losing their heads over trivialities like pancakes, in comparison Andy's composure under personal attack in is even more admirable.