[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm an Andy fan and I don't think I'm more intelligent, I know I'm intelligent, more than some not as much as others, but I don't think anything, I know myself.

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.

b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble

Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.

c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable

*sighs*

No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

Yeah, you've said that many times already. Can I eat my bran flakes now please?

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by jet

Yeah, you've said that many times already. Can I eat my bran flakes now please?

how very dare you be so passive-aggressively smug-faced arsey?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jan S

how very dare you be so passive-aggressively smug-faced arsey?

Yeah, Andy can't win, can he?

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

[Yaki da]

Long suffering. LOL

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Long suffering. LOL

so??? how do you feel he's rubbing people's faces in it?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jan S

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

i'm failing to see anyone, least of all andy (whom i see as a very nice, normal person of reasonable intellect), thinking he's godlike

gawd, i need to type something i can smug-emote to

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jan S

i'm failing to see anyone, least of all andy (whom i see as a very nice, normal person of reasonable intellect), thinking he's godlike

gawd, i need to type something i can smug-emote to

He may not be god but he thinks hes above everyone who dares talk about someone or something that doesnt interest him.

Mr self rightious leaving the bbc because of a dumb assed boxer slating homosexuality and then being entered into the sports personality of the year, never mind the saville cover ups andy, its not like that hurt anyone.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He may not be god but he thinks hes above everyone who dares talk about someone or something that doesnt interest him.

Mr self rightious leaving the bbc because of a dumb assed boxer slating homosexuality and then being entered into the sports personality of the year, never mind the saville cover ups andy, its not like that hurt anyone.

So? Did Andy leaving the bbc hurt anyone? Why is that a problem for you?

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

I haven't seen him dissecting anyone's never mind everyone's personality. Can you give examples?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by jet

I haven't seen him dissecting anyone's never mind everyone's personality. Can you give examples?

Yes, he did it with lateysha after their argument, hes done it with jason and charlie infact he does it just about everytime he,s in the diary room...christ he even did it with jackson during tonights episode..

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, he did it with lateysha after their argument, hes done it with jason and charlie infact he does it just about everytime he,s in the diary room...christ he even did it with jackson during tonights episode..

You've just given me names of people whose personalities you believe he dissected and where, that isn't examples. I didn't see him dissecting anyone's personalities so can you be more specific?

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

Andy has suggested he has no belief that a God actually exists, so therefore cannot possibly consider himself to be one.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

Nothing to do with it. No one has a problem with intelligent housemates. They have a problem with pompous self righteous pricks.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

the tv producers are to blame for exploiting people like him to make money, paying them as celebrities for a limited shelf-life after which they get discarded and spend the rest of their lives chasing tv appearances and cultivating substance abuse/emotional/psychological issues they should be celebrating people who've achieved something - whether it's becoming a doctor, an astronaut, an author, a scentist, an athlete - rather than just someone on tv because they've hair extensions, false boobs, fake tans, and will do anything for tv exposure and regular trips to sugar hut.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by hot2go

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

..wow, as much as Andy should be proud of his academic acheivements..(whatever they all are..)..I really don't see those lack of academic achievements as any measure of 'failure' in anyone.../they say nothing whatsoever about a person and Lateysha for instance has just as much reason to feel a similar pride to Andy...

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..wow, as much as Andy should be proud of his academic acheivements..(whatever they all are..)..I really don't see those lack of academic achievements as any measure of 'failure' in anyone.../they say nothing whatsoever about a person and Lateysha for instance has just as much reason to feel a similar pride to Andy...

Read my post again. .. I said Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour towards him, not by their position in life...Its THEY who judge Andy by his position in life ... He only measures them by how they treat others, by their lack of self discipline and by the pride they take in being immature and unintelligent. That's where they have failed in comparison to Andy. You are assuming it's about his academic achievements just like they do. Every situation in the house that has made Andy respected on the outside people like Lateysha and Sam have failed by behaving the exact opposite. That's their choices but when those choices blow up in their faces they blame other people for it in this case Andy.