[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

TS we have been heading into a mild recession for ages and its nowt to do with the brexit, which wont happen for 2 years anyroad. Growth forecasts are down, public sector borrowing is still out of control and sterling has been in a bear market for the last 2 years.

trying to blame all that on something that has not happened is a bit daft

Equally as daft as trying to pretend that the result itself, and even the pre-Brexit rumblings, haven't played a large part? There are shockwaves that we haven't even begun to feel yet, that were triggered on the day of the result. Even at the most basic level, consumer confidence is in the gutter, and that will have an absolutely massive knock-on effect that only compounds itself. Retail is suffering. Construction is also grinding to a shuddering halt. The country was not in a position to be able to absorb the "short term pain" in order to reap the "long term gain" - if there ever was to be any.

The actual day that we leave, two years down the line, is almost irrelevant... significant damage will already have taken hold.

Show me one broadsheet publication, or one unbiased academic economist worth their salt, managing to put even a vaguely positive spin on where the country is going? There aren't any. The only people managing to do so are still-hopeful Brexitters who are desperate to prove that they made the right decision, and politicians who will talk up a "better tomorrow" and "vision for the future" no mater what because - again - they know it's vital to maintain consumer confidence and they have to make people feel like it's safe to part with their money.

The truth? We're on a sinking ship and anyone with the means to get out currently, e.g. a dual citizenship or marketable skill, should probably do so. Right now.

[Kazanne]

What a lovely picture,I bet he's so relieved to have some peace now,time for family now.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What a lovely picture,I bet he's so relieved to have some peace now,time for family now.

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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

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That's a lovely little pet and photoshop there was never any proof of that but well done

[Cherie]

His little boy looked a bit upset can't be easy leaving "home"

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Don't encourage him

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't encourage him

Who Cameron or Bots?I don't think old DC needs much encouragement

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Who Cameron or Bots?I don't think old DC needs much encouragement

BOTS

[reece(:]

Never thought I'd ever say I'll miss him!

[Northern Monkey]

Well i hope Cameron now has a happy life.He could maybe retire to the country and work agriculture.Possibly rearing pigs?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Never thought I'd ever say I'll miss him!

You know we're up sh*t creek when you wish a pig ****er would remain as Prime Minister

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I can't understand the gushing from the HOC., he's the one who ordered the referendum and then did a runner following the catastrophic aftermath... what is to celebrate about this guy?...
His time in government has been disastrous in terms of life chances for all except the 1% :/

All except the highly exaggerated 'Catastrophic aftermath' because it is not. That said, you are 1,000% correct.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

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Leave piggie alone

[Kizzy]

Which kid did he leave in the pub again?


I like sams dress btw.

[Jack_]

His son dresses well

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Which kid did he leave in the pub again?


I like sams dress btw.

Yes A Work Of Art.

[the truth]

he must be mad to be chasing piglets with a wife as fit and hot as cam? wow. talk about toned at 40...

[_Tom_]

All this lovefest for Cameron

I'm glad he's gone, him and Gordon Brown are the two most useless PMs we've ever had.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

All this lovefest for Cameron

I'm glad he's gone, him and Gordon Brown are the two most useless PMs we've ever had.

It is baffling Tom, when some of the 'Left Wing' are weeping for him????

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is baffling Tom, when some of the 'Left Wing' are weeping for him????

Its because they recognise that TM is a far more formidable leader to beat than Dave was ... simple

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Its because they recognise that TM is a far more formidable leader to beat than Dave was ... simple

Not sure I agree - Cameron was the one who got the Tories back in power after 13 years and under him they were the first governing party to increase their share of the vote in 50 years

I think people will miss Cameron because he is fundamentally a decent person who did always have fair intentions. The Tory party today is immeasurably different than pre-Cameron. No one would believe it if you said in the 90s that a Tory leader would rally the party behind same sex marriage and be the one to implement it.

Plus in the end there's no reason not to respect someone because of their politics and its a sign of a mature democracy that political opponents can still respect each other. Yesterdays PMQs showed the Commons at its best.

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure I agree - Cameron was the one who got the Tories back in power after 13 years and under him they were the first governing party to increase their share of the vote in 50 years

I think people will miss Cameron because he is fundamentally a decent person who did always have fair intentions. The Tory party today is immeasurably different than pre-Cameron. No one would believe it if you said in the 90s that a Tory leader would rally the party behind same sex marriage and be the one to implement it.

Plus in the end there's no reason not to respect someone because of their politics and its a sign of a mature democracy that political opponents can still respect each other. Yesterdays PMQs showed the Commons at its best.

i don't disagree with anything you said, its just that everyone has their time that they are needed, and Dave just wasn't the one to continue forward at this point. TM, I think, will be a much stronger negotiator, which we need at this point. I can't say that I particularly like her, but I do recognise her strengths.

And just reflecting on labour for the moment, they just don't have a leader for the times they are facing at the moment, and aren't going to get one from the imminent leadership election. For whatever reason, those most appropriate to lead the labour party going forward and see it in to government, are not coming forward. It will all become clear sometime

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't disagree with anything you said, its just that everyone has their time that they are needed, and Dave just wasn't the one to continue forward at this point. TM, I think, will be a much stronger negotiator, which we need at this point. I can't say that I particularly like her, but I do recognise her strengths.

And just reflecting on labour for the moment, they just don't have a leader for the times they are facing at the moment, and aren't going to get one from the imminent leadership election. For whatever reason, those most appropriate to lead the labour party going forward and see it in to government, are not coming forward. It will all become clear sometime

Agree with all this

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You know we're up sh*t creek when you wish a pig ****er would remain as Prime Minister

Well there was never proof of that,but I guess it suits his haters to believe everything that's fed to them by the press