[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes I remember when it was 32 C and i had trousers on and it was....too,...much...and...i...could...not...cope

what a load of childish bollocks.

[Kizzy]

It's illegal to transport cattle over 32 C , but you can group 30+ kids in a room to 'learn'? ok

[Liam-]

We didn't have shorts in my high school either, they weren't a part of the uniform, no kids went around 'protesting' by wearing skirts, no matter how hot it was, we stuck to the rules, they're there to learn and be prepared for the rest of their lives, they can't just throw a paddy when they're told they can't do something by their seniors, yes the school should probably provide a shorts option for when it's hot, but they clearly don't, so they should just wear what they have to.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We didn't have shorts in my high school either, they weren't a part of the uniform, no kids went around 'protesting' by wearing skirts, no matter how hot it was, we stuck to the rules, they're there to learn and be prepared for the rest of their lives, they can't just throw a paddy when they're told they can't do something by their seniors, yes the school should probably provide a shorts option for when it's hot, but they clearly don't, so they should just wear what they have to.

They are there to learn, and grow as individuals that does not mean blindly following rules like a drone by seniors.

Whatever you had or didn't have, did or didn't do is not a benchmark for others, individuals...that's what employers want. Realists, thinkers, doers, creatives, solvers.

In Leeds today were many workers, ranging from postal to city types...all wearing shorts, no responsible employer would expect employees to work in conditions such as we have seen.

Wearing shorts on a hot day is not the first step on a slippery slope to non conformism or civil disobedience... don't worry.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Good on them for making a point, standing up for rights and wanting change. There was no way to do this without breaking rules.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We didn't have shorts in my high school either, they weren't a part of the uniform, no kids went around 'protesting' by wearing skirts, no matter how hot it was, we stuck to the rules, they're there to learn and be prepared for the rest of their lives, they can't just throw a paddy when they're told they can't do something by their seniors, yes the school should probably provide a shorts option for when it's hot, but they clearly don't, so they should just wear what they have to.

Maybe if they had done, it wouldn't have been an issue for these boys?

Not every rule is 'right' just because it exists as rule. If that was the case there'd be no such thing as protesting, nothing would ever change, and women/gays/black people would have no rights. (I'm not equating a lack of shorts to those issues obviously... just highlighting my point! )

I think it's great what they did, they saw a problem with something and they took a bold step towards trying to fix it... good on them

And I think the argument of "if they were adults they wouldn't be allowed to just do whatever they want" doesn't hold considering there are plenty of adults who do protest and seek change for things that are important to them, and it's people like that who are responsible for most of the major shifts in society that we benefit from today.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Maybe if they had done, it wouldn't have been an issue for these boys?

Not every rule is 'right' just because it exists as rule. If that was the case there'd be no such thing as protesting, nothing would ever change, and women/gays/black people would have no rights. (I'm not equating a lack of shorts to those issues obviously... just highlighting my point! )

I think it's great what they did, they saw a problem with something and they took a bold step towards trying to fix it... good on them

And I think the argument of "if they were adults they wouldn't be allowed to just do whatever they want" doesn't hold considering there are plenty of adults who do protest and seek change for things that are important to them, and it's people like that who are responsible for most of the major shifts in society that we benefit from today.

This post is spot on good job Jamie

[Greg!]

Good for them uniform rules are a load of shįt anyway, at my school teachers would mesusre girls skirts to see if they were long enough

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Good for them uniform rules are a load of shįt anyway, at my school teachers would mesusre girls skirts to see if they were long enough

My school didn't care about the length they just care about it being part of the uniform rules should be fair and the skirts/shorts situation is not a fair rule. It's not that hard to make shorts, I know it cost money but it's the parents who have to pay for it.

[lewis111]

I don't see what these boys done wrong
What they did didn't harm anyone or offend anyone (probably) and most likely didn't effect the work they done or if anything made it better because hey were less effect by the heat
And that's what rules should be put in place to try and avoid
People NEED to break rules when the rules as stupid and make no sense and shouldn't be rules

Pretty sure people will have had this argument like 40 odd years ago when girls weren't allowed to wear trousers to school, now if a school had that rule it would look stupid and offensive

[Vicky.]

I never bothered with school uniform tbh, much to the disgust of my teachers.

Oddly enough, I still got As in everything, despite refusing to wear a uniform. It really affected my learning eh

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I never bothered with school uniform tbh, much to the disgust of my teachers.

Oddly enough, I still got As in everything, despite refusing to wear a uniform. It really affected my learning eh

I'm sure you are now incapable of following any of the necessary rules of life after that

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

I'm sure you are now incapable of following any of the necessary rules of life after that

Oh of course

[Jack_]

I remember a few years ago when I was in sixth form we had a heatwave in May and me and a few friends saw the woman who was in charge of uniform discipline (yeah, an actual thing...and this bitch used to walk around with purple hair and a scarf telling girls to remove theirs and dye their hair a 'normal' colour) telling these poor lower school boys who'd removed their black blazers (who still had long sleeved shirts on underneath) to put them back on

They protested and said 'have you seen how hot is is? I'm sweating and so uncomfortable' and she was like 'I don't care how hot is is, put them back on'

It's primitive nonsense

[Jay28jay2]

Good for them, i'd do the same if I thought about it. To people who complain about it, they are teenage boys with hormones etc, they will be sweating and it is not pleasant.

its double standards how girls can wear skirts but boys can't wear shorts.

[Jack_]

Any fool can make a rule,
and any fool will mind it.

Henry David Thoreau

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Any fool can make a rule,
and any fool will mind it.

Henry David Thoreau

no wait Jack found a quote online

WE ARE SAVED

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no wait Jack found a quote online

WE ARE SAVED

no wait LeatherTrumpet found an article justifying police brutality online

WE ARE SAVED

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

no wait LeatherTrumpet found an article justifying police brutality online

WE ARE SAVED

a years worth of extensive research Jack

I take it you and a few others on here are licking their wounds and perhaps will take on board the lesson you learned today?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a years worth of extensive research Jack

I take it you and a few others on here are licking their wounds and perhaps will take on board the lesson you learned today?

A years worth of extensive research, which like any other piece of research carried out by anybody for any length of time, is still shrouded in intracacies and variables which can skew the data. Official statistics are collated and compiled by human beings with agendas, feelings and prejudices and as such they must be analysed and not just accepted at face value. All of this has been pointed out to you already.

Careful LT, your disingenuity is at risk of turning into overt baiting here

[Northern Monkey]

Frigginell we'd have got battered for wearing a skirt at my school.However the school should have uniform shorts in these days of health and safety madness to avoid **** like this.
Although this was just some kids trying to be smart.Trousers(or black jeans as i used to wear) never hindered my progress in school.I never thought I couldn't concentrate because my legs were too hot.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[Alf]

The other kids at the School, who followed the rules, have been hospitalised with sweaty bollox.

[Vicky.]

Why do school uniforms exist, out of curiosity? Also why are pupils not allowed shaved heads, dyed hair (even natural colours) and such?

I am not trying to start an argument, I an genuinely curious and always have been :S

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why do school uniforms exist, out of curiosity? Also why are pupils not allowed shaved heads, dyed hair (even natural colours) and such?

I am not trying to start an argument, I an genuinely curious and always have been :S

They're as outdated as tattoo's being reason not to hire