[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Tom*

I just reported the Wankers to ofcom

So have I. Who else has reported them?

[Nick.]

There's probably something in the terms and conditions which allows them to **** **** up.

[Yaki da]

What I know is going to infuriate me about this is that Chloe and one of Marnie or Bear may end up in the bottom 2 and everyone will just rejoice and act like nothing dodgy has gone on here.

[zakman440]

To be fair Emma did announce that a "game of chance" with a "hefty price" being paid at the end on Tuesday night:

Between that and them not announcing "Who stays? You decide" at the end of last night's show, technically they've done nothing wrong. I agree that it's not a very good twist and it looks very convenient though.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by zakman440

To be fair Emma did announce that a "game of chance" with a "hefty price" being paid at the end on Tuesday night:

Plus, they didn't state "Who stays? You decide" at the end of last night's show. I agree that it's not a very good twist and it looks very convenient but technically they've done nothing wrong.

What's to be fair about here? when you ask people to vote and they are spending money you make it 100% clear what they are spending their money on. Now no one could have possibly known what they were spending their money on until 18 hours after the lines opened because they've only just come up with the rule now.

That is blatantly misleading to people spending their money. Emma saying what she said didn't tell us anything about what we were voting for.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What's to be fair about here? when you ask people to vote and they are spending money you make it 100% clear what they are spending their money on. Now no one could have possibly known what they were spending their money on until 18 hours after the lines opened because they've only just come up with the rule now.

That is blatantly misleading to people spending their money. Emma saying what she said didn't tell us anything about what we were voting for.

[Yaki da]

Delete.

[T*]

Originally Posted by zakman440

To be fair Emma did announce that a "game of chance" with a "hefty price" being paid at the end on Tuesday night:

Between that and them not announcing "Who stays? You decide" at the end of last night's show, technically they've done nothing wrong. I agree that it's not a very good twist and it looks very convenient though.

Surely that's not enough like info is it??

[Cherie]

I don't see the issue to be honest, vote to save the one with the most votes is safe

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't see the issue to be honest, vote to save the one with the most votes is safe

They never said the one with the most votes would be the only one safe or the two with the most votes would be the only ones safe.

The 2 previous evictions the person with the fewest votes has been evicted. Unless they specifically stated otherwise why should voters think it is any different this time?

If you are going to do what they are doing then you need to inform voters BEFORE the lines open. That is what they do on I'm A Celebrity. If you're voting for a challenge you are told BEFORE the lines open that the top 2 will do it.

Or if you're voting for people to stay in and there will a challenge between the bottom 2, they tell you BEFORE the lines open.

If they did not do this, they would get themselves in trouble. As the code states...

2.14 Broadcasters must ensure that viewers and listeners are not materially misled about any broadcast competition or voting.

It is legitimate for voters to feel they have been misled here. How could they be anything other than misled when they don't tell us what we're actually voting for until hours after the lines have opened?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They never said the one with the most votes would be the only one safe or the two with the most votes would be the only ones safe.

The 2 previous evictions the person with the fewest votes has been evicted. Unless they specifically stated otherwise why should voters think it is any different this time?

If you are going to do what they are doing then you need to inform voters BEFORE the lines open. That is what they do on I'm A Celebrity. If you're voting for a challenge you are told BEFORE the lines open that the top 2 will do it.

Or if you're voting for people to stay in and there will a challenge between the bottom 2, they tell you BEFORE the lines open.

If they did not do this, they would get themselves in trouble. As the code states...

2.14 Broadcasters must ensure that viewers and listeners are not materially misled about any broadcast competition or voting.

It is legitimate for voters to feel they have been misled here. How could they be anything other than misled when they don't tell us what we're actually voting for until hours after the lines have opened?

It's no different to freezing the vote and saving the top 2, the person who was bottom could get a rush of votes from fans of the top 2 who want the other one out thereby changing the result, I don't vote anyway so I couldn't care either way

[Jannigran]

Just reported to ofcom .fed up with getting mugged off

[smudgie]

As its vote to save then I think it is fair enough.
No more unfair than allowing the three saved housemates to have killer noms.
I am voting James, I expect it's a good chance he will end up bottom two, as they all have the same chance of being saved in the top two or not then it is all fair, no bias against any of the 4 .

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by smudgie

As its vote to save then I think it is fair enough.

No it is not, unless they tell us that only 2 of the 4 are going to be safe. They did not do that. They led people to believe that the person with the fewest votes would be the one evicted.

That is misleading the voters.

People clearly believed that. Chloe had been a huge favourite to go today. It is now very close in the odds. There could well have been insider trading.

No more unfair than allowing the three saved housemates to have killer noms.

What goes on inside the show is up to the producers. They CANNOT mislead viewers on a phone vote. That puts them in breach of broadcasting standards.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

No it is not, unless they tell us that only 2 of the 4 are going to be safe. They did not do that. They led people to believe that the person with the fewest votes would be the one evicted.

That is misleading the voters.

People clearly believed that. Chloe had been a huge favourite to go today. It is now very close in the odds. There could well have been insider trading.



What goes on inside the show is up to the producers. They CANNOT mislead viewers on a phone vote. That puts them in breach of broadcasting standards.

E

Well, as Emma is going inside the house after the person with the most votes is saved I see no problem.
Viewers are not being misled...vote to save, if your votes have saved your favourite then brilliant.after that it is all about playing a game.
If it was a double eviction then fair enough, we get told as it matters

[Greg!]

Nobody seemed to care when they did something similar for the first cbb17 eviction

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Nobody seemed to care when they did something similar for the first cbb17 eviction

Did the producers make clear before lines opened that there would be a HM vote? The entire complaint hinges on the fact that they led people to believe something and then changed the rules after lines opened.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Did the producers make clear before lines opened that there would be a HM vote?

I don't think they did until eviction night

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I don't think they did until eviction night

I didn't watch that series. But if that was the case then people should have complained then and I certainly would have.

[Greg!]

I don't like this twist but people complaining to ofcom are wasting their time. C5 aren't that stupid, they wouldn't have done the twist if they thought there was a possibility they'd get in trouble for it

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I don't like this twist but people complaining to ofcom are wasting their time.

They are no more wasting their time than people who complained about being misled by BGT were. They were refunded their voting money

C5 aren't that stupid

They have consistently proven themselves to be the stupidest people working in television.

they wouldn't have done the twist if they thought there was a possibility they'd get in trouble for it

Yes they would. They have had to do things like refund viewers before. Even the BBC had to do this in a series of SCD because their voting system made it impossible to save a certain dancer in the semi final (when it was Tom, Rachel and Lisa Snowden). Even the most professional channels make these mistakes.

[thisisdanny]

That's ridiculous.

Just watched the end of last night's show and they didn't say once that the person with the least votes will go. It didn't even say "Who stays? You decide", it just says you're voting to save.

Stop looking for reasons to complain.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by thisisdanny

That's ridiculous.

Just watched the end of last night's show and they didn't say once that the person with the least votes will go. It didn't even say "Who stays? You decide", it just says you're voting to save.

Yes and the assumption is that it will be same as previous evictions with the person with the fewest getting evicted.

If they are to break from standard procedure they must make it clear what people are voting for. If it is only the top 2 who can be saved, they MUST inform voters that it is only the top 2. To not do so until 18 hours after the lines have opened is to misinform them.

Stop looking for reasons to complain.

You are talking out of your arsehole. The majority of people who were voting and who were gambling were doing so based on the assumption the person with the fewest votes would be evicted, at no point did they inform the voters that this was not the case as it had been in the previous two eviction. Indeed, they have only at 4-5 pm this afternoon told people what is happening. So for most of the voting window people were voting for something they never informed them the rules of and allowed them to just think it was like any other eviction. That is misleading.

[thisisdanny]

Yawn

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thisisdanny

Yawn

baiting.