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Old 19-08-2016, 08:55 AM #1
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I dont like him and i think hes ruined the series.

But

I think that what hes doing is his exact gameplan and its worked (all hes missing is his redmeption story which im sure he'll pull out this week)

I hate him but credit where its due.
His redemption story coming out now. Well done on your prediction. He has this won with his gameplan.
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Love him or hate him he's the one who has contributed to the series the most. Without him it would have been a complete snooze fest. If he goes I'm not watching anymore, because I believe he at least deserves to be in the final.
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Over rated selfish shallow twat.
One of life's users.
As to him being in BB, wrong show for him, or at least BB has made a mistake in lowering the tone of the show so much to try and compete with all the other rubbish reality shows by not only paying them to appear but then also pandering and encouraging them.

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I still dislike him. HOWEVER the one area that I have changed my opinion on him is he is actually not stupid which I immediately thought he was. Which is annoying. He's actually putting on a deceptive act of stupidity and ineptitude. He's following the mantra, the art to being powerfully clever is to pretend to be stupid. It conceals how dangerous, sociopathic and what an emotional vampire he is. Bear may not be academically or book intelligent, he may not be able to discuss Nietzsches Ubermensch concept or discuss String Theory but he understands how to get from a to b in the most successful manner and outmaneouvre those who on paper have more going for them.


He's also emotionally highly intelligent IMHO. Which is why he's able to infuriate the like 's of Ricky Sam and make so called strong woman Renee cry. Even favourite Biggins became irate and demo started a not so cuddly side when he lost his rag with Bear. Bear understands people, what makes them tick and how to use information to his advantage. He was able to reel Renee (a woman about 50 and a fearsome Mob wife) in and totally dominate her when he knew she fancied him. He even managed to deliberately annoy Emma Willis!! His calm lack of reaction to Aubrey spit gate was also measured and clever. He never used it against her which EVERYONE else would have done. He's slowly wormed his way into gaining trust from her to the extent she now quite likes him. He wound up Heavy D for the HL show the day before eviction to troll Lewis and Katie and sat back safe in the knowledge it would get heavy D evicted. Bear is manipulative but can turn on charm and could get any one, he seems to be one of those guys who probably could pull a really intelligent PhD student from Cambridge University or a 46 year old business woman despite only being a scaffolder by trade. I can imagine him seeing a woman rejecting him as a challenge and wooing her wearing her down until she agreed to date him.


You don't go from being a pips squeak contestant on Shipwrecked 2011 to being in Celebrity BB 2016, the least famous hm but the most talked about. He knows exactly what he's doing and he's no one's fool.


Grrrrrrr. Its like when I discovered HM that I dismissed as thickos such as previous winner Geordie Shore Scotty T had Grade A* Alevels in Physics Maths and Chemistry and a degree in marine engineering from a top University and bb16 Marq held a degree in chemistry. Grrrrrrrrr.

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I still dislike him. HOWEVER the one area that I have changed my opinion on him is he is actually not stupid which I immediately thought he was. Which is annoying. He's actually putting on a deceptive act of stupidity and ineptitude. He's following the mantra, the art to being powerfully clever is to pretend to be stupid. It conceals how dangerous, sociopathic and what an emotional vampire he is. Bear may not be academically or book intelligent, he may not be able to discuss Nietzsches Ubermensch concept or discuss String Theory but he understands how to get from a to b in the most successful manner and outmaneouvre those who on paper have more going for them.


He's also emotionally highly intelligent IMHO. Which is why he's able to infuriate the like 's of Ricky Sam and make so called strong woman Renee cry. Even favourite Biggins became irate and demo started a not so cuddly side when he lost his rag with Bear. Bear understands people, what makes them tick and how to use information to his advantage. He was able to reel Renee (a woman about 50 and a fearsome Mob wife) in and totally dominate her when he knew she fancied him. He even managed to deliberately annoy Emma Willis!! His calm lack of reaction to Aubrey spit gate was also measured and clever. He never used it against her which EVERYONE else would have done. He's slowly wormed his way into gaining trust from her to the extent she now quite likes him. He wound up Heavy D for the HL show the day before eviction to troll Lewis and Katie and sat back safe in the knowledge it would get heavy D evicted. Bear is manipulative but can turn on charm and could get any one, he seems to be one of those guys who probably could pull a really intelligent PhD student from Cambridge University or a 46 year old business woman despite only being a scaffolder by trade. I can imagine him seeing a woman rejecting him as a challenge and wooing her wearing her down until she agreed to date him.


You don't go from being a pips squeak contestant on Shipwrecked 2011 to being in Celebrity BB 2016, the least famous hm but the most talked about. He knows exactly what he's doing and he's no one's fool.


Grrrrrrr. Its like when I discovered HM that I dismissed as thickos such as previous winner Geordie Shore Scotty T had Grade A* Alevels in Physics Maths and Chemistry and a degree in marine engineering from a top University and bb16 Marq held a degree in chemistry. Grrrrrrrrr.
I totally agree he's not stupid but that makes me admire him even less. If he was stupid there'd be some excuse. He is absolutely one of these people who knows exactly when they've hurt someone but genuinely don't care. Definitely a sociopath.
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Still think he's scum.
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He makes me cringe. I do laugh... but I'm laughing AT him.
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I think i've gotten used to him. I think he's been a lot quieter these past few days like he's running out of energy.

I don't really have much to say about him, to me he's pretty much a non entity, and he'll soon be on a show that i have no interest in watching.

So in terms of my opinion now......well......he's a twat of the highest order, i can't bear his bullying and goading because he's only going to bring out a negative reaction in the other HM's, he's an attention *****, he'd do anything for airtime, literally anything. And i don't think i've seen the genuine bear (or this is what i'd like to think because i can't believe anyone would behave like he has). So therefore to me this social experiment has failed because it's been engineered like a fake pair of breasts!
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I don't like him ,he has a face I'de like to punch .
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Well atleast that's a reaction

The likes of Ricky can't even stir up a negative emotion in people nevermind anything else.
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Well atleast that's a reaction

The likes of Ricky can't even stir up a negative emotion in people nevermind anything else.
I like Ricky but Bear is a complete moron imo,I'm sick of the childish way he talks,his bad manners, he is such a bighead, and user.
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I'd like to show his face some kindness. I'd paint his face as he seems to enjoy that bless him. Though I'm up for some banter so I'd take inspiration from that classic episode of Phoenix Nights. What to permanently paint him as though? Still working on that.
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He's ruined my enjoyment of the show to the point I'm contemplating not watching next year at all.
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Still find him utterly revolting and dull.

He's ruined my enjoyment of the show to the point I'm contemplating not watching next year at all.
You just know they're going to bring in another of his type to ruin the show because they think it's what we want to see, rather than real personalities and stories.
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First off let me just say yes Bear is a complete and utter tosser BUT (yeah there's now another but)

He's actually now the housemate that's making me laugh the most, it's just his fake reactions to almost anything that happens that I'm finding hilarious now, he doesn't even attempt to hide the fact that they are fake as **** but then I think that's part of his gameplan, he's winding the rest of those housemates up to breaking point and he's succeeding every time.

On launch night he was the only one that made me laugh then I went off of him ASAP although I did enjoy watching him because I find him to be a very interesting specimen and enjoyed watching his reactions to scenarios and involvement in the house dynamics (this to me has always been one of my favourite parts of Big Brother)

I also think he's quite intelligent but puts on an act as part of his plan, you could see him sitting there alone last night working out things and basically he got it spot on about the next eviction being a double too.

I do on one hand think this CBB would have been a lot less interesting without him there (to me anyway) but then on the other hand had he not been there we would have seen more of some of the others, but would it have been a true representation of themselves had Bear not been pushing them?

Anyway that's my opinion of him now, what's yours?
I'm pretty much where you are at with Bear. He is a tosser and must be hell to live with, specially if you fancy some scrambled egg and he just dumped yet another packet of eggs on the floor. However he is entertaining and can be funny. It is also interesting to see how the other housemates have developed due to him and how they handle him.

At the start Sam and Ricky would have been my winners hands down but now I'm lukewarm with Ricky and I don't like how Sam thinks she is better than everyone else and something special. She got her baps out for money and had a couple of hit songs back in the 80s fgs. If the 30 year career was that good she probably wouldn't be in CBB. I don't think a lot of her bitterness and bad attitude would have surfaced if not for Bear. I think how they both respond to bear is a real turn off towards them as people. All this running around in corners whining and eye rolling seems to be all they are doing in the house. Say it to his face or shut up and get on with it. I think Ricky's Guru telling him not to get involved in controversy has lost this CBB for him and he could have romped home as the moral character who stood up to Bear.

Bear is obviously playing a game to cause mayhem and controversy and their vote for him to have eternal nominations has actually backfired because he has absolutely nothing to lose. It he's good or he's bad, he's up anyway. It's a clever game he has been playing and it's working. I found myself disliking Heavy D far more. Bear seems to know when to switch it on and when to let it go but Heavy D had no filter.
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CBB and BB are now a promotional tool for endemol and their reality clients and other reality shows.Bear Marnie Lewis Chloe and the latest visitors Lilie and the GS female are all under the endemol umbrella .CBB and BB are now scripted reality shows just like all the others.
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CBB and BB are now a promotional tool for endemol and their reality clients and other reality shows.Bear Marnie Lewis Chloe and the latest visitors Lilie and the GS female are all under the endemol umbrella .CBB and BB are now scripted reality shows just like all the others.
Which is why I've formed my opinion based on the script. Trashy Grade A twat.
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Once I stopped taking him so seriously I started warming to him. Now with Renee he is my joint fave. I do not understand how some people can get so mad at him when its clear he is nothing but a windup merchant, hasn't actually been 'nasty' (IMO nastiest thing this series was done TO him, the spit thing was horrid) and yes, the fake reactions are rather amusing, especially during nominations
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