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arista · 31-08-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Listening to a debate on this on 5 live, there's a lot of jealousy that Apple European HQ are in Ireland

Yes Great Debate on Radio 5
but it appears Apple USA can pay the money
it will not effect their Massive Balance

So Apple - Pay the Money
and stop this silly fecking about

joeysteele · 31-08-2016, 09:42 AM

I always think companies should pay due taxes whatever they may be to any Country they are owed to and which the Companies are in.

However if the govt of said Country is content with whatever arrangement is in place then weighing up the long term as to the short term should also be factors for that govt.

If the Irish govt are content, leave things be I would say.

arista · 31-08-2016, 12:24 PM

You are part of the Sinking Ship € money

Cherie is in the safer £
and $ zone

billy123 · 31-08-2016, 02:19 PM

The obvious problem is that if you want to be a small island operating as a tax haven for multi billion pound corporations and survive as a nation profiting from their kickbacks,donations and favours that is fine go ahead and base your economy on that but you wont be able to be part of the EU.

Ireland cant have it both ways its either a tax haven or an EU member they have to choose. The EU are well within their rights to demand that their members operate within their guidelines that were set out and agreed upon before becoming members.

Niamh. · 31-08-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot

The obvious problem is that if you want to be a small island operating as a tax haven for multi billion pound corporations and survive as a nation profiting from their kickbacks,donations and favours that is fine go ahead and base your economy on that but you wont be able to be part of the EU.

Ireland cant have it both ways its either a tax haven or an EU member they have to choose. The EU are well within their rights to demand that their members operate within their guidelines that were set out and agreed upon before becoming members.

Perhaps but aren't the EU shooting themselves in the foot here by making all those companies leave Ireland, we're probably going to need more bailouts that they'll have to give us

billy123 · 31-08-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Perhaps but aren't the EU shooting themselves in the foot here by making all those companies leave Ireland, we're probably going to need more bailouts that they'll have to give us

They aren't making them leave Ireland at all

They are asking Apple to operate legally in Ireland a country that has chosen to give their consent to the EU to apply their laws.
Ireland dont get to pick and choose which EU laws to obey any problems you have with them then its up to Ireland to eiher comply or leave.

Niamh. · 31-08-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot

They aren't making them leave Ireland at all

They are asking Apple to operate legally in Ireland a country that has chosen to give their consent to the EU to apply their laws.

You know exactly what I meant by that. If big companies like Apple and Google don't get big tax breaks here they'll just move to somewhere where they will get them

arista · 31-08-2016, 02:25 PM

"Ireland cant have it both ways its either a tax haven or an EU member they have to choose. The EU are well within their rights to demand that their members operate within their guidelines that were set out and agreed upon before becoming members"

Bang On Right bob

bots · 31-08-2016, 03:09 PM

the real issue is with large corporations effectively blackmailing countries. If you want these jobs, then we want this tax rate. That has to stop, so while I do not agree with the EU beauracracy, if they don't make a stand now ... it will soon be too late.

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the real issue is with large corporations effectively blackmailing countries. If you want these jobs, then we want this tax rate. That has to stop, so while I do not agree with the EU beauracracy, if they don't make a stand now ... it will soon be too late.

The UK gives tax breaks to the film industry ..same thing isn't it?

bots · 31-08-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

The UK gives tax breaks to the film industry ..same thing isn't it?

they are championing the arts and trying to keep british actors employed ... that is the government actively protecting its people. Can you not see the difference between that and being blackmailed by a large corporation?

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are championing the arts and trying to keep british actors employed ... that is the government actively protecting its people. Can you not see the difference between that and being blackmailed by a large corporation?

No because the Irish government have agreed to it, Apple have been in Ireland since the 80s, they had a small factory in our town employing about 200 people this arrangement has been mutually beneficial over the years, it has enabled highly skilled people educated in Ireland to be retained rather than having to emigrate

I don't see a lot of difference both governments giving tax breaks to multi million pound industries to gain employment for its citizens